What do we 'know' about these worlds?

POSTED BY: Lindley
UPDATED: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 04:18
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LINDLEY

Friday, June 5, 2009 2:00 AM

Oh. Oh, I *like* that! It's a really awesome idea, and it suggests some interesting stories to be told.

Hmm. But my story begins a mere six months after Serenity Valley. No way they'd be terraforming yet. Maybe in Part 2 or 3.....

BYTEMITE

Friday, June 5, 2009 2:10 AM

Hey, yeah, that IS a neat idea. :)

LINDLEY

Friday, June 5, 2009 2:57 AM

Hmm, my take on the Battle of Sturges was that it was prematurely ended by orbital strikes as well (taking out soldiers from both sides in the process)....hope the one event doesn't overshadow the other.

Come to think of it, I'm not sure what would motivate the Alliance to wipe out an entire planet. What's the strategic value there? Is it just the A-Bomb effect?

BYTEMITE

Friday, June 5, 2009 3:09 AM

Probably. Shadow was a major source of support for the Independents. It would be a demoralizing loss and also they were probably hoping it would end the war sooner so less soldiers would die.

Although I've heard rumours based on some maps of Serenity Valley that Blue Sun had some vested interest in the outcome of the war...Maybe it benefitted them in some way?

Although, there isn't any way the Core worlds would have supported the destruction of Shadow, even if they were at war. Especially since the Alliance's official line is that they were doing this to help. I suspect the Alliance tried to say it was an accident.

NCBROWNCOAT

Friday, June 5, 2009 3:39 AM

I would think that Shadow would have been blockaded by the Alliance once the war started. That would have wrecked havoc on a planet that depended on trade to survive, but could eak by on blockade runners and supply the Independents with food, be a way station for material and troops.

I grew up in Wilmington, NC the last Confederate ports and it took an amphibious invasion(the largest until D-day in WWII) by Federal forces to close it. Nuking would have been faster but wasn't available.

Also the destruction of Shadow could have been perceived much like the Alamo in Texas was. It was an enormous defeat and everyone (except some women and servants who were spared by Santa Ana) died, yet the rallying cry for the rest of the war was "Remember the Alamo". Revenge is a good motivator and best served cold.

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Friday, June 5, 2009 6:25 AM

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Originally posted by Lindley:
A few of the worlds from the Serenity Visual Companion....what do we know about them?

Liann Juin
Highgate
Harvest
Regina
Whittier
Kerry
Salisbury
Three Hills
Deadwood
Muir

Obviously we've gotten next to nothing "officially" regarding these places, but I was wondering if any fan-fic type things had established anything about them, and if there was any effort to coordinate such things if so.

If you haven't yet, I also suggest reading the stuff in that link for the Verse in Numbers.
Regina has been mentioned as the site for The Train Job, but many consider Ezra to be the site of TTJ, largely based upon the fact the Niska orbits Ezra, and Regina is too far away to travel and coordinate from Ezra orbit, as depicted in the episode.
Georgia is a Sun, thus difficult to be on while alive. Also a System revolving around that Sun.
Kowlonshi is listed as Kaylee's birthplace, and it's not know if that has any bearing on the named "Kowlon Fed Base" mentioned in Safe script (not on screen) after getting Book fixed up.
Deadwood is one of the possible locations of The Training House, as well as the moons around Deadwood. This is discussed in the Map of the Verse Discussion thread under episode forum - ask if you need further explanation.
Another moon besides Bob is Conrad.
I conjured that Mal was chipper during the War as long as he was killing those who had destroyed his home world.
I don't think Shadow was "dependent upon Core worlds" - Hera and even Serenity Valley were locations for Blue Sun production plants - surely owned by Core businesses, but the facilities would have been located in the border worlds, saving transport costs for the corporations.

LINDLEY

Friday, June 5, 2009 10:28 PM

Bread Basket, huh? It's not really in the Core in my map, but it isn't too far out. Well, with nothing more to go on, this is what I've come up with then....

Landing:
Known as the "Bread Basket of the 'Verse," Harvest brings a significant boost to the economy of its immediate surroundings. Some experts have estimated that this one world's exports are responsible for 40% of the produce intake of the entire Core. The world was settle by an unusually organized group of farmers, and what began as frontier agriculture has, in places, developed into modern industrialized farming systems. The irrigation systems around the capital city of Landing are some of the most sophisticated in the 'verse.

Bar:
For anyone not taken by the joys of farming, there's precious little to do on this world....so it's a good thing bars like this are prevalent. The Fair Weather specializes in a local brew called Burkin's Beer, reputed to have been the invention of one of the original settlers.

TRAVELER

Saturday, June 6, 2009 2:45 AM

It has been years since I heard about Shadow, but I believe the main towns were attacked and this removed Shadow's support for the war. This does not mean the entire planet was destroyed. As has been stated, Mal worked on a ranch for his mother. This may support the fact that Shadow had a small population before the war. So the population would not have grown much after the war.

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2BY2GINGERBLUE

Saturday, June 6, 2009 4:25 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
A bit OT, but as for all these worlds, I just don't see how any one could be over crowded, as has been brought up in other discussions. Even w/ massive Arks, humans, animals, and such, could only have been in a very limited #, and in the short time ( 500 yrs - time it takes to terraform a planet/moon - travel time between Earth that was to the new systems - reproductive rates....) , there's just not enough time to over populate ALL those moons and planets.

No ruttin' way.

Maybe Blue Sun had it's finger in the test tube baby market in the beginning to create a larger work force to help develop all the worlds. Combined with natural births and possible Egg harvesting from all females(maybe mandatory) under the guise of saving the human race this could have created this on some planets.
Just a thought

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BYTEMITE

Saturday, June 6, 2009 4:34 PM

Regina as the Train Job site is in the Serenity Blue Ray extras, the RPG manual, and likely in the Visual Companions.

Also, I see Mal during the War as not really motivated by revenge. He's motivated by the cause. I don't really believe when he prayed in that scene in the pilot episode that he was praying that he'd be able to kill the Alliance bomber. Success duck-hunting, maybe, which sounds similar, but I think phrasing matters. Killing was less important than winning the war.

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