Remembering Angel - Season 5 Favorites

POSTED BY: Angeldove
UPDATED: Wednesday, August 4, 2004 18:17
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ANGELDOVE

Wednesday, June 9, 2004 9:45 PM

This post will contain more than 3 favorite moments, as I feel this was Angel's best season. I can't wait to have it on DVD!!!!

Everything about Smile Time
"Your a bloody puppet!" "...the wee little puppet man"

Everything about A Hole In The World
Poignant: "Handsome man saves me" I love it as it references an early Fred moment with Angel. "Please Wesley, why can't I stay"
Funny: Astronauts vs. Cavemen

You're Welcome
Poignant: The moment when Cordy says, "You're Welcome" and walks out of the room as Angel finds out she has died and was never really there.
Funny: Angel: "I'm not going to risk anyone I care about"
Spike: "I'll go"
Angel: "OK"

Time Bomb
WTF: Watching Illyria kill everyone

Origin
Poignant: Connor (looking at Angel pointedly) "You gotta do what you can to protect your family. I learned that from my father"
Funny: Spike to Illyria: "We need to set some ground rules. First off—no more punching me in the face. Secondly, when I punch you in the face, you tell me how you feel so I can write that down on my clipboard. Third—no touching my clipboard."

Not Fade Away
Poignant: Illyria: "Would you like me to lie to you now?"
Wes: "Yes, please, yes"
Funny: Angel: "…one of you will betray me"
Spike raises his hand enthusiastically
Angel: "Wes"
Spike: "Can I deny you three times?"

Too many moments, so little space

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I took the road less traveled by and they CANCELLED MY FRIKKIN' SHOW. I totally shoulda took the road that had all those people on it. Damn." --Joss

GROUNDED

Wednesday, June 9, 2004 10:47 PM

Season ranks:

1. S1
2. S2
3. S3
4. S5
5. S4

S5 was a good send-off though and there were some great moments. Top 3 eps:

1. Underneath
2. Damage
3. Destiny/Lineage

I think I need to rewatch them all at least a few more times before I can make that list definitive ;)

Top 3 moments:

1. Spike/Angel conversation at the end of Damage.
2. Fred's last moments - my God Denisof can act.
3. Wesley shooting his 'father' in Lineage.

Honourable mention: Fred driving away to LA at the end of Shells.

BIKISDAD

Friday, June 11, 2004 5:13 AM

For me:

Season ranking:

1. S2
2. S3
3. S5
4. S1
5. S4

Episode favorite for S5: Damage
I haven't watched the others enough to rank them, but that's definitely my fav.

Moments (not in any particular order):

Spike - "Sorry luv, I don't speak Chinese." from Damage.

Illyria - I can't even write it. You know the one I mean (fortunately, Angeldove already included it earlier). from Not Fade Away.

Cordy - "You're Welcome."
Angel - "Thank you."

Plus many, many others. Season five may not have had the best individual episodes, but it was filthy rich with little "moments" like the above - probably the most since S2.

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

GROUNDED

Friday, June 11, 2004 9:21 AM

Am I the only one that thought You're Welcome was a bit poor?

BIKISDAD

Friday, June 11, 2004 11:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Grounded:
Am I the only one that thought You're Welcome was a bit poor?

Maybe not the ONLY one, but you're definitely in the minority. I loved the way they, in retrospect, put in the little hints early in the episode that she was actually dead.

Apathy on the Rise. No One Cares.

HANS

Friday, June 11, 2004 12:18 PM

(Spoilers for season five, obviously...)

Personally I HATED season five up to the christmas break. There's not one episode that I would consider worth a rewatch, and only a few moments where the show actually felt compelling (e.g. Wesley killing his robot dad). It seemed clear to me that the producers had no idea how to handle the three big changes at the start of the season - the takeover of W&H, the introduction of Spike, and the Connor mindwipe.

I only started watching Angel regularly in the 4th season, one of the early Jasmine episodes (though I've seen all the other seasons since then). I can even pick the exact moment when I became a fan - when watching the "previously on Angel" segment and seeing the huge, labryinth plot that had led up to the events in that one episode I became very intrigued, and I wanted to know more about that story arc. This was a show that respected its fans.

As you can imagine, the fact that Season five was to consist of mostly stand-alone episodes (on orders from the network) was very disappointing to me. I was willing to invest the time in the show's big damn story arcs, so give them to me!

After the christmas break the show turned around 100%. There were still stinkers (Why we Fight, The Girl in Question) but almost every other episode had something worthwhile. Highlights include Smile Time, A Hole In the World, Shells, Origin, and Not Fade Away.

Rating the seasons:

1. S4 (loved the story arcs)

2. S3 (great episodes like "Waiting in the Wings", plus the Wesley betrayal storyline)

3. S5

4. S2 (not as many outstanding episodes, I was never a Darla fan, and Pylea was only okay)

5. S1 (the show felt kinda cheesy at times, but there were some highlights)

Hans

"If nothing we do matters, then all that matters is what we do... If there is no bigger meaning, then the smallest act of kindness is the greatest thing in the world" Angel 2.16 Epiphany

GROUNDED

Friday, June 11, 2004 2:46 PM

I do agree that the beginning or S5 was a little on the insubstantial side but I imagine that's because they were adhering a little to strictly to the single episode format. The difference for me though is that I hated S4 so, although not as good as S1-3, the beginning of S5 felt to me like a recovery and they needed a few eps to get back on their feet, proven by the step up around Lineage/Destiny.

For me both Buffy and Angel work far better as single/double episodes with an overall arc running in the background until the last few episodes where it picks up for the finale. For a full blown year long arc to work it really has to be exceptional, something I think Angel (mostly) achieved with S3. If you go back and look at the S4 arc again, there are so many plot holes and continuity rewrites it's ridiculous.

Despite the faltering start, I enjoyed S5 a lot. You're right they misfired a few times - misuse and underuse of certain characters (stand up Lorne) and never truly resolving the Connor mindwipe or dealing with Cordelia's death in any way shape or form - but for a final hurrah I think it more than made the grade :)

KALATHENA

Friday, June 11, 2004 2:54 PM

Best of Season 5?

Smile Time and The Girl in Question

I always judge programs by which ones make me laugh the hardest. I will always choose humor over angst, though, I must admit, angst makes me laugh pretty darn hard, too because of how stupid it makes people look.

--Kala

MRSKBORG

Saturday, June 12, 2004 5:20 PM

Favourite Season - 3 the whole arc of the season.

Favourite Episode - last season Smile Time. Loved it, haven't laughed so much in ages - and I want one of those Angel puppets!!!

HEB

Sunday, June 13, 2004 11:36 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by mrskborg:
I want one of those Angel puppets!!!

Some guy made a fantastic Angel puppet costume for the Fusion con in the Uk. He's auctioning it off on ebay here:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=69756&item=22
49699461&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

It's expensive though and I don't know what costs of sending it to the US would be like. But just incase anyone's interested.

heb

Well, my sister's a ship... we had a
complicated childhood

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