Change you were dumb enough to believe in
POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Tuesday, September 9, 2025 21:45
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"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
As I said before:
"...It's the difference between inventing a lie and selling it, and believing a lie and repeating it. Only one of these makes you a liar..."
As for the 1998 Pelosi quote, did she even say anything incorrect there?
Heads should roll
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"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
Actually, this is 100% accurate. We DO know that Saddam historically HAS STORED secret supplies of weapons - did you already forget the first Gulf War, rappie? We found and destroyed those weapons.
Saying that he has done this (implying that he has done it in the past) is a far cry from saying "Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction."
Mike
Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
"You're a idiot." -AuRaptor, RWED, May 27, 2009.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Too gutless to even deal w/ the facts, all you can do is to continue to troll.
You forgot to have citations. You need to back up every single word with citations, direct quotes, eyewitness testimony, and a Papal decree.
That way they can respond with "LIAR" and "IDIOT" and without making use of any facts or reason.
Facts and reason don't work for them. They need emotion, name calling, and blind hatred. Those are the tools of todays liberal intellectual discussion.
H
"Hero. I have come to respect you"- Chrisisall, 2009.
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They need emotion, name calling, and blind hatred. Those are the tools of todays liberal intellectual discussion.
Now THAT is truly funny. Unintended irony, I'm sure.
Mike
Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
"You're a idiot." -AuRaptor, RWED, May 27, 2009.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
kpo - if Cheney is a liar, then so are Bill and Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, George Tenet, and countless others.
That's right. You think you can have power in this country without being a liar?
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And here's another quote you missed off your list Rap:
"Does he have dangerous assets? More so than we thought. More so than we ever wanted to believe.
And does he have an ongoing, consistent program and plan to acquire, to enhance those evil assets that are described by weapons -- by the term weapons of mass destruction? Beyond what any of us imagined. The acquisition of the weaponry, the resources, the resourcefulness, the ability to put together the device that would destroy hundreds of thousands in a fell swoop has never been even mitigated against by the commitments he made to the U.N. 11 years ago.
Can he strike our interests, our citizens, our land and our responsibilities with them? Irrefutably, yes. Now."
--Dick Armey, October 2002
And here's the story behind Armey giving this speech:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/presidentbush/2008/09/cheney-lied.html
Heads should roll
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HERO: FACTS. Please read this time.
www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/53802.html
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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy
Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy
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Quote:Details please? Oh, that's right- they're classified.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Lives saved.
Attacks diverted.
As in: MADE-UP.
You pointless precursor to putrid puss-suckers.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
If Cheney is a liar, then so are Bill and Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, Ted Kennedy, Nancy Pelosi, George Tenet, and countless others.
Including George W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, Donald Feith, John Bolton, Alberto Gonzalez, John Ashcroft, John Yoo, Jay Bybee, and countless others.
Mike
Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
"You're a idiot." -AuRaptor, RWED, May 27, 2009.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
HERO: FACTS. Please read this time.
www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/53802.html
I did read it. Like I said, the counter argument that you are using stops the inquiry at the use of subprime loans in the 2001-2007 period. Thats fine analysis as far as it goes, but it fails to address the question of how and why did subprime loans come into existence.
They came into existence because of the lending rule changes that took place in the 1990s. In the old days they loan you money, you pay it back plus interest, they make money (on the interest)The established method for long term profit was weakened when the very real prospect of no return on investment was forced onto the market.
Lenders had to ask themselves, 'how can we make money under the new rules'?
Subprime loans became the answer. It guarranteed a return on the capital investment in the short term by allowing them to make the loans, then package and sell them. Another benefit was that the housing bubble meant the houses would increase in value compared to the loan.
So here you have a bank that has to lend to people it KNOWS can't pay them back. So they give them an even BETTER deal, a subprime loan.
This accellerates the default process allowing a recoup on the investment when suddenly the loan defaults and they have an asset (house) potentially worth MORE then the original loan. That makes the loan valuable, which means the lender can package and sell it and make money...short term. The buyers make money too...on the asset...only the bubble popped leaving them holding devalued assets. Enter another rule change (this was a couple years back, I forget when but it was after '06)...banks can no longer count the value of the asset on their books.
Now they are out money AND holding valueless (for credit purposes) assets. At that point things went downhill very fast and a lot of people who set this all up were suddenly ready to retire.
H
"Hero. I have come to respect you"- Chrisisall, 2009.
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