Rifle in "Heart of Gold"

POSTED BY: EvilGnome
UPDATED: Saturday, June 12, 2004 22:33
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EVILGNOME

Wednesday, June 9, 2004 9:05 PM

What was the rifle that Mal used in the shoot out at the bordello?

GUNHAND

Wednesday, June 9, 2004 9:09 PM

Winchester Model 93.

Which are very good rifles in general, I have one of the Trapper models which is a shorter carbine version.

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"Oh hey, I got an idea. Instead of us hanging
around playing art critic till I get pinched by
the Man, how's about we move away from this
eerie-ass piece of work and get on with our
increasingly eerie-ass day, how's that?"

FIREFLEW

Wednesday, June 9, 2004 9:46 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Gunhand:
Winchester Model 93.

Which are very good rifles in general, I have one of the Trapper models which is a shorter carbine version.

~-~-~-~-~-~-~-
"Oh hey, I got an idea. Instead of us hanging
around playing art critic till I get pinched by
the Man, how's about we move away from this
eerie-ass piece of work and get on with our
increasingly eerie-ass day, how's that?"

Gunhand.... with a gun.... in his hand.....

Is this how the name was made....

Jayne: "Know what the chain of command is? It's the chain I beat you with till you understand who's in command."

EVILGNOME

Wednesday, June 9, 2004 9:49 PM

Ok, thank you. Now to go and buy one.

EVILGNOME

Wednesday, June 9, 2004 10:32 PM

Hey, did they modify this gun at all? If so do you know what they did? Because all of the ones I find online look similar but they have the cocking arm and not that cool metal sliding piece.

TIGER

Wednesday, June 9, 2004 10:56 PM

I'm pretty sure the Model 93 is a pump action shotgun, not a rifle.

It looks like Mal is using a Winchester Model 92 or 94 lever action rifle (I think Nandi is using one too) like this one --
www. drake.net/VMR35bxl.jpg

MADJACK

Thursday, June 10, 2004 3:16 AM

Quote:
I'm pretty sure the Model 93 is a pump action shotgun, not a rifle.

The Pump shotgun is the Model 97.

I always thought that the rifles in "Heart of Gold" were model 94s, but i have been wrong in the past.

BTW: what kind of tiddlywink round is a .25-20.

Bona na Croin

TIGER

Thursday, June 10, 2004 5:52 AM

You're right, the 97 is ALSO a pump shotgun. I think there are at least 3 models of winchester pump shotguns. The Model 94 is also a lever action rifle in .30 WCF.

Truthfully, Mal's gun could have been any Winchester-style lever action rifle.

GUNHAND

Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:17 PM

Goes to show I should read what I type sometimes, yeah it is a 94, that was the result of fingers not being where they should be and me trying to outtype a storm rolling in...

Doh!

There are a whole slew of Model 94s, the Traditional ones are the old "cowboy" style with a straight grip and the...Legend or Legacy, forget which, which is more modern-ish looking with a curved grip.

94s come in full rifle (that's what Mal and Nandi were using) length and the Trappers which are carbine models, they're about 4 inches shorter than the rifle size. Which means they hold less ammunition because the tube is the same length of the barrel. That's what I have a 94 Trapper because it's easier to handle on horseback.

You can get the Trappers in .30-30, .45 Long Colt, .357 Magnum and .44 Magnum. Not sure about the full rifle size but I know they come in some pistol calibers, and from what I remember of the episode the cartridges they were ejecting looked more like pistol rounds than a full size .30-30 case.

Oh and on the name, partially right. I work on a ranch, ranch workers are hands. Since I do most of the shooting that needs done I'm the Gunhand, which used to be old cowboy slang for gunslinger too. So...that's where it comes from.

If you're really looking to buy one mine cost $400 and change for a Trapper in .357 Magnum, which isn't too bad. And was quite a bit cheaper than my pistol, which is a Ruger Vaquero .357. I bought them at the same time as my new work guns so the shop owner was a grinning guy when I left that day.

~-~-~-~-~-~-~-
"Oh hey, I got an idea. Instead of us hanging
around playing art critic till I get pinched by
the Man, how's about we move away from this
eerie-ass piece of work and get on with our
increasingly eerie-ass day, how's that?"

STATIC

Thursday, June 10, 2004 1:10 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Gunhand:
from what I remember of the episode the cartridges they were ejecting looked more like pistol rounds than a full size .30-30 case.

Good catch, GH! The smaller case is actually due to the fact that they were firing blank ammunition. My beautiful wife, who works in theatre tech, tells me that gun replicas that are built for theatrical use, i.e. cannot fire real ammo. . .cannot even be CONVERTED to fire real ammo, use a somewhat 'universal' round that is smaller. This is for safety (blank rounds can be just as dangerous in confined spaces), and for the consideration of the actors (Nandi would have been knocked on her ass firing a full sized round, and maybe Nathan as well if he didn't have much experience). Also, the people who make blank-firing replicas learned that if you make all your guns fire the same round, then theatre and movie companies will buy ammo in bulk, rather than leave it all to the effects guys.

I love my wife.

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