Terminator Salvation Spoilery Discussion
POSTED BY: Zeek
UPDATED: Saturday, July 4, 2009 03:17
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Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:Quote:You belittle the emotional core of the tale. Ah well.
Originally posted by Zeek:
the stupid Kyle is John's father thing.
I don't like it because it's impossible. To me unless they explain how that one works then I don't like it. The explanations that I can buy is that the John we've seen has never been the John Conner of legend because the original John Conner had a father from his actual time period or we never got to see the original time line and we're just jumping into the story in the middle of a time loop.
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Originally posted by Zeek:Quote:
Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:Quote:You belittle the emotional core of the tale. Ah well.
Originally posted by Zeek:
the stupid Kyle is John's father thing.
I don't like it because it's impossible. To me unless they explain how that one works then I don't like it. The explanations that I can buy is that the John we've seen has never been the John Conner of legend because the original John Conner had a father from his actual time period or we never got to see the original time line and we're just jumping into the story in the middle of a time loop.
By having Kyle be his father this turns John Connor into a messiah figure that just exists. He was always been and he will always be. He is our savior. It adds a little bit of depth to the movie rather than him just being some guy.
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Well, Arnold didn't do a cameo - they CGI'd his 1980's mug onto that Kickinger guy's body - the body guy has a credit, Ahnold doesn't, he wasn't in it. (not sure how that image liscensing worked out).
Didn't heard mention of Kate Brewster's name - is she Connor now?
Hope this gives a boost to Moon Bloodgood's career.
Marcus had to have free will because the writers were channeling Ahnold's Total Recall torment into the role.
Was disappointed that they performed heart transplant surgery in the open sand dunes. right.
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Quote:She was simply placed into the credits as "Kate Connor". There was no mention of a name, or the fact that she was pregnant.
Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Didn't heard mention of Kate Brewster's name - is she Connor now?
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Originally posted by Zeek:
Really I think the first Terminator was more of a B movie. It was somewhat silly and of course being that it was the 80s the special effects are pretty bad. In fact a theater here did a MST3K thing of it that was really funny. Though I still give it props for having a plot that holds together fairly well except for the stupid Kyle is John's father thing. They just did that cause they wanted a dumb twist that made people scratch their heads IMO.
Way to show you have only a surface understanding of the film. If you're gonna go - go shallow....
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Quote:It's not impossible by any means.
Originally posted by Zeek:
I don't like it because it's impossible.
Read this for an explanation:
http://www.mjyoung.net/time/terminat.html
N-jump explains all.
The laughing Chrisisall
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I thought it was alright. Worked as a summer movie I guess, but really nothing more. I mean McG was out there saying that they were going to reboot the franchise like Batman Begins and the Dark Knight did for Batman. I think he took that too seriously and John Connor inherited the Bat Growl for the whole movie. I felt Christian Bale was just yelling, doing the Bat Growl the whole time and falling back on his now overplayed action hero. Bale is definately is Bruce Wayne, but John Conner had to much Bruce Wayne in him this time around. There were some well shot action sequences, but some unbelievable stuff too. Like John Conner needed to see the leaders of the Resistance so bad that he jumps out of a helicopter into a raging sea hoping the sub will surface with divers and come get him before he drowns. And I agree that the movie didn't progress the terminator storyline all that much. And I guess Marcus was a Proto-type of a cybernetic organism. I really didnt feel like he was a terminator. In the Climax too we see the Arnold model come out. Felt that didnt need to happen. I would rate it the worst out of all of the terminators. At least T3 kept in the spirit of James Cameron's first two entries and had terminators committing some bloody gory violence. McG had the license to put more violence in this its Terminator after all people need to get Terminated. On the other hand Rated R movies don't sell tons of action figures.
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Was anyone else disappointed ...at not hearing NIN's "The Day the World Went Away?" after the initial trailers??I kinda looke dofrward to hearing it in the soundtrack,having always considered "The Fragile" to be under-appreciated Trent Resnor music....
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Definately that song made the trailer.
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