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Inara's secret.

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 5:32 PM

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Originally posted by MalsNara:
Maybe not.

Though do you think Jayne's gonna get old? Sometime he's actually gonna get shot somewhere else than just his leg. Chances are high on him dying early



After being shot one too many times, I see Jayne giving up the mercenary life and becoming fat and sedentary. He survives into old age by getting into business -- a liquor store owner or a gunsmith. Or maybe running a bar with some rooms above that he rents by the hour. With some upstairs waitresses 'serving' customers, know-what-I-mean? All very semi-legitimate work suitable for Jayne. It's not like Mal is going to give Jayne a pension large enough to live a dignified retirement. Jayne will have to work in his old age.
Damn, Jayne's life after Serenity sounds dull. Jayne should explore the Solar System with everybody else. Go for the glory, Jayne! Go to Earth! It will make a better story for Serenity 3.

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 5:33 PM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
I spent all that time arguing with BSCM that part of Inara's secret may have to do with anti-aging... But there really isn't any reason for Joss to have drawn attention to her appearance and age unless something was significant about it.

Yes. Exactly. I am a person that believes Joss does not waste dialogue. When Nandi marvels "You haven't aged" there was a key clue buried there. The clue was just as important as the buried dialogue "I don't want to die at all" to Simon in OOG.

I followed Shiney's post further up to a really old post from Jan of 2004...gosh that predates me even...where I learned something I'd never even known before. http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=2&t=3415#36893

Shiney relates in post #8 that in between speaking lines in the episode The Message is the following action when the crew is at the post office in the bazzar:

Inara finds a small package, squarish, addressed to her. She smoothly slips it beneath her outfit without anyone noticing, turns to see Kaylee arrive, looking glum.

I'm going to go home tonight and look for this. From personal experience of reading episode scripts online, there are differences between what they intended to shoot and what actually got shot. This is because shooting scripts are not the same as episode transcripts. I will say however, that reading the shooting scripts really helps gel some aspects of the show, and also can add texture to different scenes when the script's line was X and the actor impromtu'ed Y, or some such. When looked at side by side a richness can sometimes be seen, such as in this situation with Inara in the Bazzar. I'm of a mind that like Shiney relates in 2004, the package contained a similar syringe in a box. Seeing as how she had it mailed to a rim planet she knew they'd be visiting, I'd wager she requires regular injections of the syringe substance for an unknown reason.

I thought I knew it all, and yet I'm still finding more tidbits. I recall in 2007 I got all excited upon seeing the Blue Sun logo spinning in the center of the holo-imager in the Ariel Hospital, elated at finally seeing something I didn't know before. Shiney's post from 2004 gave me another jolt of that excitement today.

yea!

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 5:49 PM

Two: I've heard people mention a Butch Cassidy and Sundance Kid style ending for Mal and Jayne (and maybe the entire crew of Serenity). That kind of has it's appeal. :) After all, no one knows whether they actually died in one last stand-off, or if they made it to Mexico...

But you know what? I actually agree with you that I think Jayne would die old, fat, happy, and grizzled. Despite his line of work, and despite not knowing much else, Jayne's a survivor. He's like... A cockroach. He could be in a nuclear holocaust and he'd STILL be kicking around afterward. Barring that, I see plenty of beer and whores in his future.

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Tuesday, May 12, 2009 5:52 PM

Nice find, BSCM, I ought to try to watch the Message for that.

Maybe this wasn't ret-conned, but intended all along? It's interesting. I wonder why she's never shown any symptoms?

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Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:23 PM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Nice find, BSCM, I ought to try to watch the Message for that.

Maybe this wasn't ret-conned, but intended all along? It's interesting. I wonder why she's never shown any symptoms?

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Wednesday, May 13, 2009 8:35 PM

I'm missing something here.

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Wednesday, May 13, 2009 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Nice find, BSCM, I ought to try to watch the Message for that.



Just to be clear, that bit about Inara hiding a package in her sleeve wasn't shown in the actual episode, but it was in the original shooting script, which you can read here (something has gone wrong with the formatting though): http://www.fireflyfans.net/feature.asp?f=46

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Wednesday, May 13, 2009 11:36 PM

Ah. Neat! Thanks for the clarification.

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Thursday, May 14, 2009 12:45 AM

I don't view Inara's secret as retcon, she's been doing her secret from the beginning, and I don't mean coloring her hair:)

The reason she is dying, or the hows and whats, may need to change to be applied to the Serenity verse rather than the Firefly verse, but the truth of her condition remains the same.

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Thursday, May 14, 2009 12:54 AM

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Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:
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Originally posted by Bytemite:
I spent all that time arguing with BSCM that part of Inara's secret may have to do with anti-aging... But there really isn't any reason for Joss to have drawn attention to her appearance and age unless something was significant about it.

Yes. Exactly. I am a person that believes Joss does not waste dialogue. When Nandi marvels "You haven't aged" there was a key clue buried there. The clue was just as important as the buried dialogue "I don't want to die at all" to Simon in OOG.


I'm with you there on both counts.

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... hears "I'm a big girl; just tell me." that it could in fact have been directed not at Mal but something she said to a doctor once... a doctor who was hesitating about telling Inara the seriousness of her condition...


I always thought that was pretty obvious, to be honest. Definitely +1.

Inara having a medical thing going on was pretty clear, IMHO. I was just never sure *what* it was. Based the three quotes you mention, I've always gone for the 'not wanting to age' theory.

Knowing what we know now, I still can't fully place Nandi's "You haven't aged" marvel yet. So, whatever 'package' Inara received (on a regular basis?), maybe it was just artificially keeping her health up, and Nandi just meant she hadn't aged as much as she expected, given her illness? Still, that doesn't entirely fit yet.

In a way I'm 'glad' though Inara was dying, as opposed to her having found the Fountain of Youth (a rather cheesy theme, really, which has the potential to go bad real fast). So, dying it is then.


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