Limits of State Power
POSTED BY: SergeantX
UPDATED: Sunday, December 14, 2025 21:53
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Have you ever seriously thought what it means to see your child starve or die for lack of medical care? The peeps who take starvation wages for dangerous jobs don't do so because they have their "civil rights". I said it b4, and this points it out: you are such an unconscious elitist it never even occurs to you to that others might really be suffering.
I don't mean to be insulting Sarge, but you sound like I did when I was a teenager... a pretty comfortable teenager BTW. I had food, a place to stay, lots of spare time. Abstract ideas like "freedom" had a very high sheen then.
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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy
Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy
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Originally posted by SignyM:
I said it b4, and this points it out: you are such an unconscious elitist it never even occurs to you to that others might really be suffering.
Yeah. You say that with some frequency. I try to ignore personal attacks and press on, but it's not always easy. My gut response is "fuck you, you don't know me", but that doesn't exactly salvage anything from the discussion. I don't feel the need to justify my opinions with personal testimony. If the ideas are sound, my personal story doesn't matter.
SergeantX
"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock
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Well, the ideas AREN'T sound. One can be compelled to do all kinds of shitty things thru starvation even more easily than being compelled at the point of a gun. Because you can only hold a gun on a person for so long. But if you've got them and their family by the stomach, they'll keep on doing what you want even if you turn your back.
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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy
Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Well, the ideas AREN'T sound.
Which ones? I don't think slavery is better than facing starvation. In any case, I don't think those are ever the only two options. I'll beg, borrow or steal before I'll give up my freedom for bread.
Frankly, I find the flippant used of the term slave - as in "wage slave", for example - to be incredibly naive (and pretty damned insensitive to hundreds of thousands of Americans who lived and died as someone else's property). Have you ever thought about what it would be like to be a real slave? That means someone OWNS you, they own your body and treat is as they wish. You are their property. That's a living death as far as I'm concerned, and I'd never choose it voluntary. Even if the alternative was starving.
SergeantX
"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock
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Do you understand that slavery is an economic system ?
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Quote:Have you ever looked at England during the Industrial Revolution?
That means someone OWNS you, they own your body and treat is as they wish. You are their property. That's a living death as far as I'm concerned
Or at
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Read about the women who work 15 hours a day, sleep in shifts, then are raped by their supverisors and tossed out if they become pregnant? Does that look any better than slavery?
Quote:Brave, untested, words. I think if you or your family truly faced a crisis... which you have never done, apparently... you'd prolly change your mind. Too bad you can't even imagine yourself in the shoes of the average peon. But right now you care more for your ideological purity than you do for people. In another thread, long ago, you wondered why libertarianism nevr got anywhere. I think you just found your answer.
and I'd never choose it voluntary. Even if the alternative was starving.
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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy
Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Brave, untested, heartless words. You care more for your ideological purity than you do for people.
Back to that again, huh?
Listen, if you're tired, call it a night. Resorting to personal attacks isn't much fun for anyone. Is it?
SergeantX
"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock
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Do you understand that slavery is an economic system ?
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Do you understand that slavery is an economic system ?
Sure, what's your point?
SergeantX
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It's a business, not a government.
If you had to chose between an anti-slavery government and a pro-slavery 'free-enterprise' business, which would you choose ?
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