Simon the Virgin Poll

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UPDATED: Tuesday, June 8, 2004 23:29
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NICOLACLARKE

Monday, June 7, 2004 4:54 PM

Yes.

/ pure intentions, juxtaposed /

WILDHEAVENFARM

Monday, June 7, 2004 5:44 PM

No, I don't think he is. I think he got some, maybe only once, a loooong time ago, and it probably wasn't very good. Then he became consumed with medicine and forgot all about it. I say this as the proud deflowerer of a 22 yr old virgin.

Also, and I know these may be fighting words, does anyone else think Sean Maher is gay? I saw his interview snippets in the making-of piece on the dvd and I immediately though, "If only I could introduce him to my friend Nathan."

Mary
Always a beast, never a burden.

KALATHENA

Monday, June 7, 2004 6:33 PM

Oh c'mon. I don't believe ANYONE over the age of 16 is a virgin unless they tell me otherwise. To write a mid-20's character who is a virgin would be rediculous, unless there was some aspect critical to their character that made it the truth. Things like childhood trauma/abuse, a spiritual vow of some sort, etc.

It would be an extremely unrealistic character if he was.

--Kala

REKKA2

Monday, June 7, 2004 6:53 PM

So does that make me an exception, the rule, or just lame?

PURPLEBELLY

Monday, June 7, 2004 7:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by WildHeavenFarm:
does anyone else think Sean Maher is gay?

Here's me thinking that his portrayal of Simon as gay was so convincing because of his acting skills

SPLIBERTARIAN

Monday, June 7, 2004 7:51 PM

Simon a virgin? I'm guessing no.

Quote:

I don't believe ANYONE over the age of 16 is a virgin unless they tell me otherwise.

Considering that most virgins don't prance about proclaiming their virginity, I imagine you know many more virgins than you think.

Then again, there is the Clinton Legacy...

WILDHEAVENFARM

Monday, June 7, 2004 8:35 PM

I've known several guys who were virgins past the drinking age. Of course, they also spent a lot of time playing Dungeons & Dragons and Vampire: The Masquerade. I'm pretty sure that factors in heavily.

And remember what Inara said, virginity is just one state of being.

Quote:
Originally posted by kalathena:
Oh c'mon. I don't believe ANYONE over the age of 16 is a virgin unless they tell me otherwise. To write a mid-20's character who is a virgin would be rediculous, unless there was some aspect critical to their character that made it the truth. Things like childhood trauma/abuse, a spiritual vow of some sort, etc.

It would be an extremely unrealistic character if he was.

--Kala

Mary
Always a beast, never a burden.

CAGEYBEE

Tuesday, June 8, 2004 5:35 AM

i think no....and hope to survive to explain my reasoning. which i'm sure is consistent with quite a few others in here. i'm a popular theroist.

me
the queen of the obscure

~Mal- "how drunk was i last night?"
~Jayne- "i don't know. i passed out."

HOWDYROCKERBABY1

Tuesday, June 8, 2004 6:25 AM

just thought i'd give this thread a little bump, so everybody knows, that the reasoning can now begin.

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MAL: This is my scrap of nowhere. You go on and find your own.
SAFFRON: You can't just leave me here, on this
lifeless piece of crap moon...
MAL: Sure I can.
SAFFRON: I'll die.
MAL: Well, as a courtesy, you might start
getting busy on that, cause all this chatter ain't doin' me any kindness.

RUTHIE

Tuesday, June 8, 2004 8:24 AM

My vote is for yes -

and as I seem to be the first to post after 'official' permission to reason, here's why...

I was watching Shindig last night.
I think that episode gives an insight into Simon's cultural background - similar to the 'posh' people at the ball.

Remember the old gentleman's comment to nasty Banning, about a wink of a schoolboy's eye being all the time needed to get her out of her dress?
And how offended she was by that comment?

That's the attitude to 'unsanctioned' sex that Simon would have been brought up with - but even more so, because I'm sure that the 'gentlefolk' of the core planets would consider even the elite of Persephone as provincial mudboots.

Simon seems, at heart, a conformist, who actually believed and valued his upbringing, until the need to rescue River thrust him into extreme behaviour. So, through his time at school, medical training, and working as a doctor, he would have behaved as a perfect gentleman towards women.

We're talking Jane Austin values - a kiss is as far as it's permitted to go before marriage, and even that's a bit risky.

Since being on Serenity, Simon may have started to re-think his pre-formed values - but no more than that. He's attracted to Kaylee, but is trying to exhibit that attraction according to his rules - while being bright enough to realise that Kaylee operates by quite different rules. So he's trying to be gentleman enough for both of them.

I think that, as the series progressed (if it had ... Fox... ) we would have seen Simon and Kaylee together - in a moment VERY meaningful for Simon, and far less significant for Kaylee - which would have led to further story lines of just the type of stereotype reversal that JW likes so much.

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Ruthie
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