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Return of the Republicans

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Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:05 PM

Specter simply decided to give up his last few molecules of pretense as a statesman, and join the slobbering flock of the Feeders of Vaal. Whoooops, is that the dinner bell sounding? Run Arlen, run.

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Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:14 PM

RIP, Kwicko- there are worse things than being moonbats... like being fascists. You get the religious zealots, fascists, neocons, and faux populists out of your party and we'll get the corporatists, Zionists and pseudo-socialists out of ours. All of those ideas watered by big money???? They have to go!


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We should have strapped him into a glider, filled it nose heavy w/ explosives, and dropped his Allah lovin' ass into a large, empty field. After which, release wild boars into the area so they could make good use of his remains. Now THAT's justice.- rappy

Yeah, that's what Sheikh Issa said. Seems you both have a lot in common.- signy

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Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:24 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
But a few enterprising souls could rebrand some libertarian ideals, call themselves Republicans, and overthrow the old guard from within.

Quite funny you would write that Kwicko, it's what I and others around me are doing right now in Indiana.

In 2010 I'm running for local office as a "republician" but I'm hardly an R in philosophy. Maybe about 55% at best. I get in hot debates all the time with R's who think I'm crazy to be so pro-market and pro-military like them and yet be pro-environment, pro-science, and pro-choice.

I like to rather think that I'm actually pro-logic. And most everyone else marches in step with the music their different media outlets play.

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Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:31 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
Libertarians certainly seem to be closer to the center than the most recent leaders of the Republican party.

We like to think of ourselves as not being "Left" or "Right" on a singular line axis. We're more like being "Up" in a cartesian plane. Draw a line in your mind. Lable the right side the "Right" and the left side the "Left". Now draw a second line perpendicular and bisecting the 1st. Label the top "Libertarian" and the bottom "Statest".

We often feel as though we're outside events, or rather "up" looking "down" on the left/right struggles.

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Friday, May 1, 2009 5:30 AM

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Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:
We often feel as though we're outside events, or rather "up" looking "down" on the left/right struggles.



That's kind of unfortunate too. As much as I agree that the left/right thing is a pretty limited way to view things, I think that libertarianism borrows the best principles from each side of the left/right axis. If that looks like the "middle" to people committed to the current two dimensional axis, I see no reason to resist it.

But it is odd that while some see us as in the middle, others would call us the hardest of the right. Still others the looniest of the left. Take your pick.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Friday, May 1, 2009 12:21 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
And that, my dear Sarge, is why the time is ripe for pouncing NOW. The Republican party is in disarray, and it's being re-imagined and re-imaged as we speak.


Its never as bad as it seems. After 2000 the Democratic Party was done. They had lost Congress, the Presidency, and after 9/11, much of their credibility.

What did they do? The swerved sharply to the left...so much so that they abandoned the man who was their VP candidate in 2000, a man who stood strong for mainstream Democratic principals throughout his career. They became more and more radical and more and more ugly in their anti-Bush hate speech. But they were two candidates away from retaking everything. Two...yes, Barrack Obama and George Bush.

Barrack Obama promised a lot of centrist things, but had no record, now in office he's so far left that he's wondering why Carter was so conservative.

This allows the Republicans to regain their moral and philosophical roots, to choose new voices and new candidates to revive the 'young conservative' spirit that carried the 1994 Republicans to victory. We are also two candidates away from retaking the White House. We have Barrack Obama...now we just need the anti-Barrack. Some names are out there...I think we haven't heard the right one yet. Palin, Romney, some of the Governors...and we have some extremely good folks in the House (I never liked Senate candidates)...and just last week I heard a friend whisper..."JEB".

You see, in nearly every national election since 1964 the conservative ideas are the ones the people want. You can put up better candidates or take advantage of wars, watergates, a drooling media, and banking disasters...but all things being equal...most folks vote Republican, they vote Conservative.

Unless we're better off in four years then we are now...expect a Republican to be in office.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you"- Chrisisall, 2009.

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Friday, May 1, 2009 2:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:
Quote:

Originally posted by Kwicko:
But a few enterprising souls could rebrand some libertarian ideals, call themselves Republicans, and overthrow the old guard from within.

Quite funny you would write that Kwicko, it's what I and others around me are doing right now in Indiana.

In 2010 I'm running for local office as a "republician" but I'm hardly an R in philosophy. Maybe about 55% at best. I get in hot debates all the time with R's who think I'm crazy to be so pro-market and pro-military like them and yet be pro-environment, pro-science, and pro-choice.

I like to rather think that I'm actually pro-logic. And most everyone else marches in step with the music their different media outlets play.



That's good news to hear! Good luck with the campaign, and do your damnedest to hold their feet to the fire.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

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Friday, August 2, 2024 7:53 PM

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