Joss wants YOU to help save Dollhouse.
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From Sci-Fi Wire:
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Joss Whedon, creator of Fox's sci-fi series Dollhouse, told reporters that there is still a chance that Fox will pick the show up for a second season, provided the remaining four episodes do well—especially with a new lead-in, Prison Break, which replaces Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles in the timeslot before, starting April 24.
"The question is, with a different lead-in, will anything change?" Whedon said in a group interview Wednesday in Hollywood before appearing on a Paley Festival panel about the show. "Will Prison Break be a worse match for us because it's such a different show? Or will it be better because more people watch it? Do more people watch it? I don't know what the numbers on Prison Break are. So there are a lot of X factors."
The following Q&A features edited excerpts of Whedon's comments. Dollhouse airs Fridays at 9 p.m. on Fox.
I have all-new questions for you today.
Whedon: Well, good, because I have an all-new personality. Well, I changed my shirt. I know how to bring it. I've learned from the celebrities.
Have you heard anything official from Fox about when you'd hear about cancellation? Or have they told you if you hit a certain ratings number, that would be more favorable to a second season?
Whedon: They haven't said anything about a number, and they haven't said anything about a date. What they have said is "We get it. We get that the numbers are soft, but it's not a Nielsen world. The DVR numbers are good, and the show's getting better, and the demographic is good, and we all have a crush on [star and producer] Eliza [Dushku]." So they're basically fans.
Obviously, there has to be a number we reach that is viable for them economically, or it would be senseless for them, unless they were insane fans like me. But they get it. They get the show, and they get what works. So they're anxious for it to stay at a level where they can justify throwing down some more. Hopefully that'll happen.
Rumor is that Terminator, your lead-in, is essentially canceled. Does that give you any pause?
Whedon: No. I mean, Terminator did very poorly. I don't know why. I love it. That's why I'm not on that side of the fence, because I'm not a marketer. I don't know how these things work. It started strong, and it fell off for some reason. I liked it as a lead-in because, artistically, they were just a nice match. They both had a similar sensibility, and I think Terminator was a really interesting show that really plumbed the depths of its premise really well. So I was happy to be with it. But the fact is it was doing poorly, and we were doing better, but not great. I think, ultimately, nobody blames us. We did build on Terminator and usually on our own half hours most nights. It's anyone's guess at this point.
Did you sense you needed to wrap up the story if the season finale ends up being the series finale?
Whedon: I always have that sense. The trick is to do something that has a sense of closure and only asks questions, which is what we did. It does have a total sense of closure and a ridiculous number of cliffhangers at the same time in its own way, in a way that's very hard to describe. It's not like anything else I've ever done.
If you get a second season, have you already thought of a story arc?
Whedon: Yeah. Not an absolute total arc, but there's a bunch of stuff that we're already chomping at the bit to get to. We feel like this story is just too rich, and we barely scratched the surface. Although, I'll tell you, for the next four episodes, we scratch it really, really hard. It's going to bleed.
What would it take for fans to rally for a season two?
Whedon: I don't think it's a "Save Dollhouse" campaign. Basically, we've got a few more times up at bat. It's going to be up to the fans to be vocal in their own community to make sure people are watching, that we get those DVR numbers, that they don't slip. If they want to cold-call executives, that's good too, I guess. Or Twitter. A lot of people are Twittering. Ultimately, it's just hoNOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Thanks for posting the article, but it seems to me that Fox may be starting to feel the fans (and in particular Browncoats) heat.
Let me explain. Their statements to Joss are "we're fans" "we get it." Oh reeeeeaaally!
Hmmmm, methinks Fox execs don't want further ill will directed at them. Their treating him with kid gloves because they know he has a devoted following that could bring in large sums of cashy-money. They may be looking to future revenues from DVD sales (as with another Whedon project).
But, no matter, WE will not fail him. Message received Joss. Rally the troops and fire up the engines, we have a mission. Of course, all this depends upon those last four eps being killer. If it's anything like "A Spy in the House of Love"
Dollhouse stands a good chance of seeing a second season. It's also good to know that TiVo and DVR numbers are considered as well. I wonder if that includes Hulu viewings as well?
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BTW I found out that there's a book by the same title as that last episode of DH. "A Spy in the House of Love" (1954) is a book written by Anais Nin. Here's a description of the book: The book is a journey into the mind of Sabina, who is assumed by many to be a fictionalized version of author Anaïs Nin herself. The book portrays an adulterous woman working with a therapist to try to come to terms with her dishonest ways. The story is a character study of a woman in torment.
I think this describes DeWitt's character to a T.
I wonder if Joss read this book and got some inspiration from it.
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Also, I found a blogger that has soem good insights into DH. "What's Alan Watching" by Alan Sepinwall, a TV critic for the Star-Ladger.
http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2009/04/dollhouse-spy-in-house-of-love-f
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I'm going to watch the ep again just to get some things clear in my head.
SGG
Tawabawho?
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I'll be tuning in as always.
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I download off itunes the following day as I do not really watch TV unless something is interesting and I don't have cable. Do you know if they are figuring in those numbers too, or are they to low to factor in?
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DOLLHOUSE SUCKS
it deserves to be canceled
First the show just isn't that good, I want to like it but the more I watch it the more I dislike it. It had a poor premise, the crap scripts and a very average lead actress. Too bad our zealous Whedonites will never admit their god suddenly has feet of clay.
Second what the hell was Joss thinking returning to Fox, a company he vowed never to work with again, this is where Dancing With The Stars and American Idol dominate. This might come under "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me"
Third the save dollhouse campaign jumpedtheshark (better known as boned the fish these days) once the Whedonesque zombies made a save dollhouse rally, petition, save dollhouse website
SIX MONTHS BEFORE THE 1ST EPISODE EVEN AIRED
People should be ripping Joss a new one over at Whedoneqsue sites, instead I see the usual tv zombies brown nosing as per usual. Yes I've cut to the bone but more importantly
I'm not a zombie, if a show sucks I will say it sucks
The sooner the creative failure that was Dollhouse is behind Joss the better.
Whedon needs to get off his throne for a while, get back down to earth and start writing good material again like his Buffy, Firefly days
PUT DOLLHOUSE OUT OF ITS MISERY
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DOLLHOUSE SUCKS
it deserves to be canceled
To each his own, I guess. I enjoy it, I think it has a lot it can build on, but I can also understand how others may not like it.
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Second what the hell was Joss thinking returning to Fox, a company he vowed never to work with again, this is where Dancing With The Stars and American Idol dominate. This might come under "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me"
Honestly, I think people should stop ripping on FOX. They do what they think is best for them to make money. That's the whole point of the network. They're not some great artistic venue, they're a business. Yeah, they didn't give Firefly a chance, but at some point you just have to bury the hatchet. They did give Firefly more of a chance than any other network. And as for Joss returning to FOX, you have to work with the people who are willing to pick up your show. I don't know if he tried other networks, but he may have and FOX picked it up. That's better than not working in my book.
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Third the save dollhouse campaign jumpedtheshark (better known as boned the fish these days) once the Whedonesque zombies made a save dollhouse rally, petition, save dollhouse website
SIX MONTHS BEFORE THE 1ST EPISODE EVEN AIRED
I fully agree with this. I didn't like when people were doing this either, I thought it gave the show a bad rap before it was even released, which didn't help at all. In fact, it probably hurt the show.
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Originally posted by participant:
DOLLHOUSE SUCKS
it deserves to be canceled
First the show just isn't that good, I want to like it but the more I watch it the more I dislike it. It had a poor premise, the crap scripts and a very average lead actress. Too bad our zealous Whedonites will never admit their god suddenly has feet of clay.
Second what the hell was Joss thinking returning to Fox, a company he vowed never to work with again, this is where Dancing With The Stars and American Idol dominate. This might come under "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me"
Third the save dollhouse campaign jumpedtheshark (better known as boned the fish these days) once the Whedonesque zombies made a save dollhouse rally, petition, save dollhouse website
SIX MONTHS BEFORE THE 1ST EPISODE EVEN AIRED
People should be ripping Joss a new one over at Whedoneqsue sites, instead I see the usual tv zombies brown nosing as per usual. Yes I've cut to the bone but more importantly
I'm not a zombie, if a show sucks I will say it sucks
The sooner the creative failure that was Dollhouse is behind Joss the better.
Whedon needs to get off his throne for a while, get back down to earth and start writing good material again like his Buffy, Firefly days
PUT DOLLHOUSE OUT OF ITS MISERY
Rebuttal:
1. OPERATIVE
2. MKULTRA
3. PROJECT MONARCH
4. CIA PENTAGON PSYOP
There's a serious disinfo campaign to derail all TV shows and movies where writers dare to plagerize CIA scripts, or exhibit govt corruption.
Cancellations based on alleged "poor ratings" are a popular tool. Look what Fox did to Lone Gunmen, for daring to quote declassified Operation Northwoods, and predicting CIA carrying out 9.11 by crashing a robot airliner into WTC. Lone Gunman Dean Haglund said CIA does feed script ideas to Fox writers.
Whether Dollhouse lives or dies, cudos to Joss and his team for covering govt mind-control in BTVS, Firefly and now Dollhouse. It's a war out there, and Joss is on point. Google Cathy O'Brien and Johnny Gosch.
The sheeple must not be allowed to awaken, lest they escape from the Kosher slaughterhouse.
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DOLLHOUSE SUCKS
it deserves to be canceled
As of a few weeks ago I agreed. It really has started to pick up though. I'm getting interested in the characters. The premise still sucks but hell so does a vampire private detective. If Joss can fit good enough characters around a crappy premise it can still be a good show IMO.
Unfortunately for you most of the "zombies", as you call them, tend to respect other peoples points of view. So, that probably won't work as flame bait. Shoot for something racist or sexist. That might get you some attention.
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Originally posted by participant:
DOLLHOUSE SUCKS
it deserves to be canceled
First the show just isn't that good, I want to like it but the more I watch it the more I dislike it. It had a poor premise, the crap scripts and a very average lead actress.
Unfortunately I agree with you 100%. I've watched every episode and tried to get onto it, but it just isn't working for me.
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