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river's limits

POSTED BY: wytchcroft
UPDATED: Monday, April 20, 2009 07:10
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Thursday, March 5, 2009 9:45 AM

Regarding River not reading Simon.

No.
Part of the subliminal programming of a reader is making them blind to the command words about to be spoken. Otherwise, obviously, it would NEVER WORK.
That's what she cannot see or sense in advance. It's in her programming, not her lack of ability.

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Monday, April 20, 2009 7:10 AM

I don't know if anyone is still reading this for fun or profit, but...

Here's a few more cents, real-life experience ones:

Out of Gas: I once "predicted" that our engine would die halfway through a road trip. Thankfully it only died after our destination. I was ten years old and hated mechanics, not interested,etc. There was no sound out of the ordinary but I could "feel" something wrong with the engine--it's a vague sense of something not fitting, not jiving, running down.

Ariel:
When I saw my great-aunt in LA she was no different than she had been in the last 3 years.
As I got up to leave however, I knew out of the blue that this would be the very last time I would see her. I thought I was being paranoid.

Until I woke one morning a few months later. I was fine until it was almost time to leave the house in the afternoon--I should have been excited, but instead it was like a heavy weight had hit me. I felt numb. Then someone called and said she had just died in the hospital after being taken in suddenly that morning.

Sometimes you feel things. I believe that a lot of "gut feelings"--my great-aunt nowithstanding--are based on a compilation of tiny details we pick up without noticing

Being highly intelligent AND highly sensitive to begin with (plus alliance enhancement), River's subconscious would be a kleptomaniac with the "irrevelent" details. Think House.


I'd also like to say that this thread has been IMMENSELY entertaining, and astute: River is NOT your average 17/18 year old plus a veneer of supercoolbadassery on top. She isn't a regular girl ANY way you look at her, and thus shouldn't be expected to follow that timeline. She isn't a superhero with a secret identity-Joss plays with that nicely, mocking it--her skill, her genius and her trauma are all very deeply intertwined and infuse EVERY aspect of who she is. Were she completely un-damaged by the Alliance, you would STILL have a VERY different girl than the one who jumps Jayne and Mal in their bunks in some of the space-porn I've seen floating around.

Suddenly she's all better and the best way to get rid of any lingering troubles (of any type), to "heal fully" is to physically and emotionally weld to the nearest available male? This warrants a River comment on a similar proposal by Simon:

"You are such a boob."

No...simply....no. First, she's too traumatized= trust issues, processing issues, sorting-out issues. Second, she's just plain too intelligent, meaning her IQ is still too high to feasibly jump into something like that "to make it all go away", and it leads to a lot more issues, as pissy as people want to get about it.
The ONLY way I could see river having sex period at this point is pure experimental hedonism, (ie experiential) detatched from herself. And that is reeeeeeaaaallllly stretching it. Things of this nature seem to be serious to her.

A question of my own after that long rant: Had River not been outwardly "sexed up for the BDM" as it was put on another thread, would this even be an issue?
Is there pre-serenity fic that has her doing this?


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