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Tea Party protesters are civil, bathed and decent.

POSTED BY: AURaptor
UPDATED: Sunday, April 26, 2009 16:18
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Friday, April 17, 2009 5:27 PM

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Limbaugh is accurate 99% of the time. Everyone should listen.
Hmmm... Limbaugh is 99% credible. And why should I believe this??? Because a Limbaugh supporter told me so???

This is the same circular logic as: The bible is the word of god. How do I know? Because it tells me so!

I was hoping that you would agree to a less belief-driven test of credibility... such as the ability to explain ALL of the facts (not just a select few) and the ability to predict the future. Alas, I see that you're as religious about Limbaugh as some are about the bible.

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Friday, April 17, 2009 6:38 PM

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But now as they sense the political winds changing, we see a convenient change of heart.

That always happens, you can always pick out the damn collaborators so easily cause when the wind changes, they're the ones making plaintive, pathetic, overblown shows of loyalty to the new regime, which of course they "always really supported" while dropping any evidence to the contrary down the memory hole and playing to the all too short memories of the masses.

This ain't so much certain republicans, as it is the mainstream media right now because they DID collaborate, they WERE complicit, and all this massive sucking up is in desperate efforts to not only try to keep them relevant, which is a failure from the start since due to them acting as a fucking propaganda machine for the GOP over the course of the last six years, most folks with half a clue went to other sources for their news and this is putting a hard financial pinch on them, and soon enough they'll not only scream and whine for a bailout, but then take the money and funnel it into restrictive measures intended to strangle the internet cause we can't have the people ACTUALLY knowing what's going on, oh no...

See, the assholes in power been doing this shit all along, it's due to the free and open nature of the internet and the free exchange of information (good, bad, ugly and requiring critical thought to determine value from chaff) that these days we CATCH them at it, more and more often, and despite what many folks think of "loons" like Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, John Lee, and so many other obviously-cracked folks, they do dig out shitloads of information which otherwise no one would bother, and often enough someone more reputable and credible will take the ball and run with it.

Considering what HAPPENS to whistleblowers these days, despite all but illusory supposed legal protections, they've really only got one way to spill the dirt in this era also, and who do you think they spill it to ?
Often enough buried in their own spin, prejudices and misperceptions.

But so long as the internet exists, the facts are out there, and even if it WERE strangled, there's FIDONET and Samzidat, cause it's just too late for these alphabet goons to cut off the flow when most of their upper management is still stuck in a 1950s mindset regarding the matter.
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I'm not sure we need those kinds of allies. All I see them doing is shitting on the legitimacy of the genuine libertarian movement. I almost wonder if that isn't their real goal.

You can thank Bob Barr for that, since by lack of opposition and complete shunning of anyone not rabidly conservative, him and his cronies, initially given the position despite a majority of the party being against it, have turned the "libertarian" party into GOP-Lite complete with every goddamn flaw those Federalist-Neo-Fascist pricks ever had, and not a single one of the advantages like heavy old money backing and corporate support, that they'd need to make that lameass idea even work.

And of course, as this progressed most of the real libertarian types jumped ship and even more moderate conservatives like Will Grigg took a beating because they got hammered by three sides with the "libertarians" siding with the very radical right assholes they were trying to distance themselves from.

NO ONE has forgotten this, and these kind of grudges tend to last a damn long time in politics.
By installing and supporting Barr, and failing to dump him even as he destroyed their party's viability, the "libertarian" party has in essence, self-destructed, and the fact that he is STILL THERE despite this means that any chance of redeeming it is utterly hopeless.
What's next, hiring that psycho Bolton as their press agent ?

Believe me, I am not above using treacherous quisling cowards like these as cannon fodder, or even as catspaws to eliminate each OTHER, which they'll do gleefully to prove thier loyalty to "the cause" and bury their own native cowardice by mowing someone else down for it - this being a time honored and dam

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Friday, April 17, 2009 6:39 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Limbaugh is accurate 99% of the time. Everyone should listen.

He's more credible than most of the msm.






BWAAAAHHAAAAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA!

Thanks, that was a good one.



"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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Friday, April 17, 2009 7:48 PM

Heh heh heh.

May Day approaches.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chummy_Fleming

"... I am going to be expelled because I am an anarchist. I am in the company of Tolstoy, Spencer and the most advanced thinkers of the world. Workers will never get their rights while they look to Parliament. A general strike would be more effective than all the Parliaments in the world. I have got a fine stick and I am going to use It. Expel me if you like. I am an anarchist. We have been hanged in Chicago, electrocuted in New York, guillotined in Paris and strangled in Italy, and I will go with my comrades. I am opposed to your Government and to your authority. Down with them. Do your worst. Long live Anarchy".

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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RUE
Friday, April 17, 2009 11:54 PM

"the stimulous package and continued bailouts were the last straw"

I thought the bailouts were a bad idea. As I've said several times already, the government could have gotten a lot more bang for the buck if it had simply renegotiated the problematic mortgages. All those over-leveraged multiple layers of investment 'instruments' BASED ON MORTGAGES would have been stabilized, as would have the banks. AND people could have legitimately stayed in their homes, and the real estate market would not have crashed so badly.


An opinion I read a while back - more stimulus, less bailout. I couldn't agree more. The economy is running on 'bubbles' (there is a book called 'The Bubble Economy'). And bubbles are simply people pushing an elevator up because it's going up (for now). The country needs INVESTMENT in order to MANUFACTURE. That's what the stimulus is supposed to do. I have no problem with that.


While I can see people getting irked at signing those tax checks to the US Treasury - and hence to Geithner and hence to the fat cats - it seems silly to be protesting a TAX CUT. What do you want the government to do in response - take the money back ??? I mean, really - how idiotic is that ?


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Saturday, April 18, 2009 12:06 AM

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Originally posted by citizen:
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Limbaugh is accurate 99% of the time. Everyone should listen.

He's more credible than most of the msm.


you forgot the in.



Oh, you mean 'Everyone should listen IN ' ???

Prefix isn't what you meant, I'm sure.



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RUE
Saturday, April 18, 2009 12:46 AM

"And whoever drafted that DHS document referencing emerging 'right-wing extremism' should be among the first in line , right after their 'superiors'..."

Starting with BUSH, perhaps ?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090416/pl_politico/21300

Earlier vet. report drew no fire

While the American Legion and conservative commentators have pounced on a recent Department of Homeland Security report on right-wing extremism, calling it politically motivated and slanderous toward veterans, a 2008 FBI report with similar findings generated little controversy or coverage.

The 2008 report, produced while President Bush was in office and titled “White Supremacist Recruitment of Military Personnel Since 9/11,” found that although veterans don’t make up a large percentage of “white supremacist extremists,” they have taken on leadership roles in the movement.

The DHS report circulating this week dedicated just one section to “disgruntled military veterans,” where it referenced the 2008 report.

Earlier Wednesday, Rehnbein’s colleague John Sommer and Fox News host Greta Van Sustren were raking the report over the coals.

“It's slanderous. It's insane. It's insulting,” Van Sustren said. “It's all those things.” (Unless Bush does it. In which case - it's A-OK ! )


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RUE
Saturday, April 18, 2009 12:56 AM

"Tea Party protesters are civil, bathed and decent."

Except when they are not:

"when he started begging I thought the people were going to tar him"


Not exactly an advertisement for the civility and decency of the tea-baggers.

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Saturday, April 18, 2009 1:21 AM

Except Rue, it is.

Had I been at these Tea Parties...lol. I would have rushed the White House.

But I had to work, unfortunatly. And, yes, I chose to gather another paycheck instead of charging. Take of that what you will.

As far as I could see, and keep in mind I was 2 blocks from the White House...they WERE civil.



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RUE
Saturday, April 18, 2009 1:23 AM

Not according to a poster who was at a tea party.

"And then I saw the grand absurdity of a downtown panhandler gravitate towards the mass of humanity thinking this was like a Colts game or something where he could fleece beer/drug money. What he encountered was a mass of people who had heard speeches on the subject of self-suffenciecy and when he started begging I thought the people were going to tar him."


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