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KWICKO

Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:55 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
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Originally posted by out2theblack:
[Of the 535 in Congress , probably 530 of them need to be sent a message in the strongest of terms...

And whoever drafted that DHS document referencing emerging 'right-wing extremism' should be among the first in line , right after their 'superiors'..

What message would that be? Is Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi going to listen to your message? Best solution is to slip Bill Ayers a C note, and let him blow up the Capitol Bldg. That would send a message the Liberals would just love....their very own chickens come home to roost.

Thank you for proving the point of the DHS memo! You ARE a batshit-crazy right-wing nutcase!

Expect a knock on the door very soon... I'm sure DHS will be glad to read your words here.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

KWICKO

Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:58 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
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Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
And yet you were oddly silent while the Bush administration put all these policies in place...

You're not so much against tyranny itself - you're just against it when you think it's being imposed upon you from the left. If it comes from the right, you'll GLADLY bend over and take it.

I'm so glad you posted that, because it serves the purpose of pointing out how harmful divisive retoric has become. At the Indianapolis Tea Party yesterday this point was made again and again:

"You are here because your government has become tryanical. You are as angry at the CURRENT state of tyranny as the PREVIOUS. You are not a "republican" or a "Democrat". You are an american."

My tea party rally was not absent of democrats. Pleanty of hoosier dems were at my event with their own signs declaring what all of us felt, that taxing the people for one penny more than is needed to run the government is robbery.

I took a great picture with myself (libertarian) standing with a well known local GOP state rep and a Dem activist. We were just one Tea Party of 3000 true, but there were 800 rallies total. And this was REAL BI-PARTISAN GRASSROOTS ACTIVISM. Nowhere in the crowd were people bussed in like the Acorn folks are known to do. These were plumbers, doctors, contractors, farmers, service workers, ect... We were all americans united for 2 hours. Politicans were barred from speaking. And plenty wanted to! This was an event the likes of which has not been seen for a long long time. I was honored to be a small part of mine.

Great post! You're wasting your time responding to a hopelessly hateful of Bush victim though. Bush did all sorts of bad things to this poor pathetic whiner. He cannot function on a human level any longer. Everything he thinks and does is all hate-Bush related. It consumes his katra. We're doing a case study on the phenomenon here, with many of his sadly pitiful kindred Bush haters taking part. Some are showing some limited progress, but it doesn't look good for a real recovery any time soon.

You're wasting your time responding to a hopelessly hateful group of Obama haters, though. Obama did all sorts of bad things to this poor pathetic whiner. Jongsie cannot function on a human level any longer. Everything he thinks and does is all hate-Obama related.

Damn, Jongs... I thought you were going to take the gloves off and REALLY let us have it from now on. Apparently, gloves on or gloves off, you're still the same pathetic lightweight you've always shown yourself to be.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

KWICKO

Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:02 PM

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Tolerance is the virtue of a dying society. -Aristotle

That's not a quote I'd be particularly proud to display, Blue. It implies the opposite - that for a society to LIVE, it must be INTOLERANT. The Third Reich tried that; it didn't work out too well for them.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

BLUESUNCOMPANYMAN

Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:04 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
You're wasting your time responding to a hopelessly hateful group of Obama haters, though. Obama did all sorts of bad things to this poor pathetic whiner.

Grr Arg.
This is what I'm talking about. Stop being polarized. Stop thinking about these subjects as if it's all binary code. Red State/Blue State. Bush hater/Obama Hater. Fox News/MSNBC.

What I saw yesterday gave me hope. Real True Tangible Hope.

JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:05 PM

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Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:
It's very strange to me how I'll have a discussion of a subject & then immediately hear it again from another direction. A main focus of talk amongst Tea Partiers (100's of strangers talking amongst themselves after the event ended) was how EMOTION always clouds REASON. Politically, the extension of that subject has been how angry, seething, bush-hating people cannot let go of the past. Some cannot even come to terms with the fact that everything is different. Totally and radically different. So intense is the anger that there is no true focus to the emotion anymore. It blasts out in all directions in the form of empty divisive retoric. These things have happened before with Nixon, though few of us were alive then to know it. I wasn't.

The important thing for us yesterday was the awareness of going forward, and to stop thinking about what's past. These events are being painted by the press as being "radical right-wing" but if that was true why were there so many "Bush was Terrible" catcalls at mine? If it was right-wing why do I have pictures of proudly desplayed Dem signs? Please listen to Thomas Payne in the youtube vid. He is not partisian. Not at all. And the issues he raise cut right down the center of the polarized retroic.

I think all that is very noble. I also think it's very naive. The Left has consistently shown nothing but vitriolic hatred for anyone opposed to their views, and they also love to parade out their useful idiot moderate Republicans whenever they can. John McCain went on Letterman and The View. All they did was mock and scorn him, but the semi-senile media-starved like-me whore left utterly clueless each time. This Obama disaster is multi-layered. Govt. bailouts and redistribution of wealth are only a small part of the problem. Forgive me for not singing Kumbaya just yet.

JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:10 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
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Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
And yet you were oddly silent while the Bush administration put all these policies in place...

You're not so much against tyranny itself - you're just against it when you think it's being imposed upon you from the left. If it comes from the right, you'll GLADLY bend over and take it.

I'm so glad you posted that, because it serves the purpose of pointing out how harmful divisive retoric has become. At the Indianapolis Tea Party yesterday this point was made again and again:

"You are here because your government has become tryanical. You are as angry at the CURRENT state of tyranny as the PREVIOUS. You are not a "republican" or a "Democrat". You are an american."

My tea party rally was not absent of democrats. Pleanty of hoosier dems were at my event with their own signs declaring what all of us felt, that taxing the people for one penny more than is needed to run the government is robbery.

I took a great picture with myself (libertarian) standing with a well known local GOP state rep and a Dem activist. We were just one Tea Party of 3000 true, but there were 800 rallies total. And this was REAL BI-PARTISAN GRASSROOTS ACTIVISM. Nowhere in the crowd were people bussed in like the Acorn folks are known to do. These were plumbers, doctors, contractors, farmers, service workers, ect... We were all americans united for 2 hours. Politicans were barred from speaking. And plenty wanted to! This was an event the likes of which has not been seen for a long long time. I was honored to be a small part of mine.

Great post! You're wasting your time responding to a hopelessly hateful of Bush victim though. Bush did all sorts of bad things to this poor pathetic whiner. He cannot function on a human level any longer. Everything he thinks and does is all hate-Bush related. It consumes his katra. We're doing a case study on the phenomenon here, with many of his sadly pitiful kindred Bush haters taking part. Some are showing some limited progress, but it doesn't look good for a real recovery any time soon.

You're wasting your time responding to a hopelessly hateful group of Obama haters, though. Obama did all sorts of bad things to this poor pathetic whiner. Jongsie cannot function on a human level any longer. Everything he thinks and does is all hate-Obama related.

Damn, Jongs... I thought you were going to take the gloves off and REALLY let us have it from now on. Apparently, gloves on or gloves off, you're still the same pathetic lightweight you've always shown yourself to be.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

You can only plagorize my posts, then have the balls to call me lightweight? You are fucking delusional. And by the way, I've already placed a call to Bill Ayer's office. So far the gutless puke hasn't called back. That's typical of your heroes.

KWICKO

Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:11 PM

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The Left has consistently shown nothing but vitriolic hatred for anyone opposed to their views...

Yeah, remember how The Left went around telling everyone they had to "support the troops" or get the hell out of the country? And remember how The Left called anyone who didn't hate the French a bunch of surrender-monkeys and terrorist-loving freedom-haters?

Man, those Lefties sure are vitriolic...

[/sarcasm]

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

KWICKO

Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:12 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
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Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
And yet you were oddly silent while the Bush administration put all these policies in place...

You're not so much against tyranny itself - you're just against it when you think it's being imposed upon you from the left. If it comes from the right, you'll GLADLY bend over and take it.

I'm so glad you posted that, because it serves the purpose of pointing out how harmful divisive retoric has become. At the Indianapolis Tea Party yesterday this point was made again and again:

"You are here because your government has become tryanical. You are as angry at the CURRENT state of tyranny as the PREVIOUS. You are not a "republican" or a "Democrat". You are an american."

My tea party rally was not absent of democrats. Pleanty of hoosier dems were at my event with their own signs declaring what all of us felt, that taxing the people for one penny more than is needed to run the government is robbery.

I took a great picture with myself (libertarian) standing with a well known local GOP state rep and a Dem activist. We were just one Tea Party of 3000 true, but there were 800 rallies total. And this was REAL BI-PARTISAN GRASSROOTS ACTIVISM. Nowhere in the crowd were people bussed in like the Acorn folks are known to do. These were plumbers, doctors, contractors, farmers, service workers, ect... We were all americans united for 2 hours. Politicans were barred from speaking. And plenty wanted to! This was an event the likes of which has not been seen for a long long time. I was honored to be a small part of mine.

Great post! You're wasting your time responding to a hopelessly hateful of Bush victim though. Bush did all sorts of bad things to this poor pathetic whiner. He cannot function on a human level any longer. Everything he thinks and does is all hate-Bush related. It consumes his katra. We're doing a case study on the phenomenon here, with many of his sadly pitiful kindred Bush haters taking part. Some are showing some limited progress, but it doesn't look good for a real recovery any time soon.

You're wasting your time responding to a hopelessly hateful group of Obama haters, though. Obama did all sorts of bad things to this poor pathetic whiner. Jongsie cannot function on a human level any longer. Everything he thinks and does is all hate-Obama related.

Damn, Jongs... I thought you were going to take the gloves off and REALLY let us have it from now on. Apparently, gloves on or gloves off, you're still the same pathetic lightweight you've always shown yourself to be.

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

You can only plagorize my posts, then have the balls to call me lightweight? You are fucking delusional. And by the way, I've already placed a call to Bill Ayer's office. So far the gutless puke hasn't called back. That's typical of your heroes.

I can only WHAT?

By the way, I've already placed a call to DHS and the FBI, and sent them e-mail copies of your posts about blowing up the capitol building. I bet my guys will get in touch with you before Bill Ayers will...

Mike

Build a man a fire and he'll be warm for a day...
Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.

BLUESUNCOMPANYMAN

Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:20 PM

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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

I think all that is very noble. I also think it's very naive.

And your point is not lost on me. Yes it can be percieved as naive. True. But I will say this..the same could have been said to the patriots of the 1770's prior to the war. At that time a growing minority were disgruntled, fighting as they did against the Stamp Act of 1765, the Townshend acts of 1767, the Tea Act of 1773, or the Intolerable acts of 1774. To resist the supreme power of the combined might of the British Empire by a meer few was indeed regarded as naive (or more often foolish). But when the frustration grew...and grew....and grew...what was once naive became menacing.

One reason I love Firefly so much are the ideals of the Independents. They bled and died for planetary sovergnity. Who can protect us from Scavengers, or harsh conditions? From Slavers or Reavers? The Alliance? NO! We must stand on our own legs! We have the right to self govern. That fiction created by Joss Whedon resonates as loudly in my ears as the truth of the American Revolution. Those were the people who proclaimed 'Give Me Liberty or Death', and meant it.

I saw a lot of things at yesterday's tea party. There were even some scant counter-protestors. But their efforts were such a waste, they had no message. And then I saw the grand absurdity of a downtown panhandler gravitate towards the mass of humanity thinking this was like a Colts game or something where he could fleece beer/drug money. What he encountered was a mass of people who had heard speeches on the subject of self-suffenciecy and when he started begging I thought the people were going to tar him.

JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, April 16, 2009 6:26 PM

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Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:

I think all that is very noble. I also think it's very naive.

And your point is not lost on me. Yes it can be percieved as naive. True. But I will say this..the same could have been said to the patriots of the 1770's prior to the war. At that time a growing minority were disgruntled, fighting as they did against the Stamp Act of 1765, the Townshend acts of 1767, the Tea Act of 1773, or the Intolerable acts of 1774. To resist the supreme power of the combined might of the British Empire by a meer few was indeed regarded as naive (or more often foolish). But when the frustration grew...and grew....and grew...what was once naive became menacing.

One reason I love Firefly so much are the ideals of the Independents. They bled and died for planetary sovergnity. Who can protect us from Scavengers, or harsh conditions? From Slavers or Reavers? The Alliance? NO! We must stand on our own legs! We have the right to self govern. That fiction created by Joss Whedon resonates as loudly in my ears as the truth of the American Revolution. Those were the people who proclaimed 'Give Me Liberty or Death', and meant it.

That's very well written BSCM. You have moved me, and I'm going to re-watch the John Adams series this weekend because of it. I wish you success in your goals.

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