Star Trek TOS remastered / New movie discussion
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Monday, April 20, 2009 05:48
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Quote:Speaking subjectively here, 1 was my favourite (the Wise Cut), and I loved Insurrection.
Originally posted by Storymark:
Except, yeah, 10/Nemesis sucked hard. Far moreso than the odd-numbered Insurrection.
Nemisis took a second viewing to become acceptable, and as it's Jerry Goldsmith's final Trek score, I had to own it. But even Goldsmith couldn't make me get 5
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Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Speaking subjectively here, 1 was my favourite (the Wise Cut), and I loved Insurrection.
Originally posted by Storymark:
Except, yeah, 10/Nemesis sucked hard. Far moreso than the odd-numbered Insurrection.
Nemisis took a second viewing to become acceptable, and as it's Jerry Goldsmith's final Trek score, I had to own it. But even Goldsmith couldn't make me get 5.
The laughing Chrisisall
I'm pretty loyal to Khan as my favorite, with First Contact and Undiscovered country close behind. I like 1, but as a more intellectual excersize - it doesn't grab me in the way the others do.
I liked Insurrection, and am kinda stupified by all the hate I see leveled at it. Sure, it's not the most cinematic, and really just boils down to a long episode. But though it might be a bit mediocre as a movie-movie, I still like it. Nemesis, however, was so terribly written that I can't sit through it. It's almost Final Frontier-bad to me.
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I like all the Star Trek movies. Ranked in order of my preference they are :
1. The Voyage Home
2. The Wrath of Khan
3. The Search For Spock
4. First Contact
5. Generations
6. Insurrection
7. Nemesis
8. The Undiscovered Country
9. The Motion Picture
10.The Final Frontier
Those that don't see it this way are illogical.
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Originally posted by RIPWash:
But that brings me to another question. I grew up watching TOS after school and what not. Watched TNG (loyally), DS9 and Voyager (not as much but still enjoyed them - didn't get into "Enterprise"), and have seen most of the movies except for maybe the last two. Though not a die-hard Trekkie, I do enjoy them as good sci-fi and I'm relatively familiar with the cannon. I want my kids to enjoy the Trek universe as well. How should I introduce them? I have the first movie at home (from the library) that I want us all to watch together, but I fear that would entail a build-up storytelling marathon on my part (or at the very least stopping the movie every now and then to explain the relationships and all that).
What would you all recommend I show them first? A few episodes of each series? Or what?
Anyone? Anyone at all?
I feel like I'm being ignored today! LOL
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Originally posted by RIPWash:Quote:
Originally posted by RIPWash:
But that brings me to another question. I grew up watching TOS after school and what not. Watched TNG (loyally), DS9 and Voyager (not as much but still enjoyed them - didn't get into "Enterprise"), and have seen most of the movies except for maybe the last two. Though not a die-hard Trekkie, I do enjoy them as good sci-fi and I'm relatively familiar with the cannon. I want my kids to enjoy the Trek universe as well. How should I introduce them? I have the first movie at home (from the library) that I want us all to watch together, but I fear that would entail a build-up storytelling marathon on my part (or at the very least stopping the movie every now and then to explain the relationships and all that).
What would you all recommend I show them first? A few episodes of each series? Or what?
Anyone? Anyone at all?
I feel like I'm being ignored today! LOL
Zoe: "Get it running again."
Mal: "Yeah"
Zoe: "So not running now"
Mal: "Not so much"
- Out of Gas
Ripwash, I think this might be helpful :
Start your kids off with the Star Trek Animated series. I don't know how old they are, but most kids like cartoons. The Trek animated series ran 1973-1974 and has 22 episodes available on DVD. They are terrific, many being sequels to original Trek tv episodes. If they like the cartoons, then they'll be ready for the tv show, and the actors' voices and characters will be familiar to them.
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I forgot all about those!
They might like them . . . but aren't the cartoons a little . . . hokey? I don't remember them all that well, I just remember bad animation. LOL
I think they'd like the live-action stuff better at this stage. I guess I'll just start from the begining.
Zoe: "Get it running again."
Mal: "Yeah"
Zoe: "So not running now"
Mal: "Not so much"
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Quote:The animation outright sucks. The stories are good, but I'd show them that stuff last. Start with the original series eps, my son swears by them. Then bleed in TNG, the movies etc.
Originally posted by RIPWash:
They might like them . . . but aren't the cartoons a little . . . hokey? I don't remember them all that well, I just remember bad animation.

The laughing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
1. The Voyage Home
2. The Wrath of Khan
3. The Search For Spock
4. First Contact
5. Generations
6. Insurrection
7. Nemesis
8. The Undiscovered Country
9. The Motion Picture
10.The Final Frontier
Me:
1. The Motion Picture
2. The Undiscovered Country
3. First Contact
4. The Search For Spock
5. Wrath Of Khan
6. Insurrection
7. The Voyage Home
8. Nemesis
9. Generations
10.The Final Frontier
I am illogical.
And look at the sceensaver my Son JUST MADE FOR US!!!:

All by himself!!

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Quote:At least it featured Picard's clone & not his long lost son or brother, LOL!
Originally posted by Storymark:
Nemesis, however, was so terribly written that I can't sit through it. It's almost Final Frontier-bad to me.
Okay, it wasn't very good, but the music & FX were cool. I really bought it for the first ten minutes though. I'm sentimental is all.

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