Star Trek TOS remastered / New movie discussion
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Monday, April 20, 2009 05:48
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The other redesigns were because of the old versions being destroyed if I remember correctly.
But with this NEW movie, even though still cannon, Abrams is taking the point of view that this one person, Nero, going back in time to get vengence on Spock has completely and totally screwed up the timeline via the butterfly effect. That action messed with many things on mulitple levels, one of which could very well be how the Enterprise was designed. Just look at it that way and everything will be all right 
Now that I know more about the basic plot devices Abrams is using here, I'm really psyched to see this movie. I know Shatner was upset that he was not asked to appear, but really, how could he the way the story was written? Next to impossible. I just hope I get to see it in a theater and not have to wait for DVD.
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Originally posted by Storymark:
That logic might hold better if it hadn't alrerady been redesigned a few times.
of the new movie Enterprise, and I have come to accept the new design. I have cleared my mind am am ready to fully enjoy this new effort.
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Originally posted by RIPWash:
The other redesigns were because of the old versions being destroyed if I remember correctly.
Not the Motion Picture version, it was just a spiffed-up re-design in the manner of what we have here.
After that though, yeah, they blowed 'em up.
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I wish they would make a Deep Space Nine movie or TV movie or something,
of all the series, it was my favorite... and Avery Brooks as Ben Sisko was my favorite Captain.
It also seemed like Treks first experiment with long term plot and storylines ( maybe copying Babylon 5 a little in that ) and I think it helped evolved scifi that way a little bit.
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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
I wish they would make a Deep Space Nine movie or TV movie or something,
of all the series, it was my favorite... and Avery Brooks as Ben Sisko was my favorite Captain.
Same here. Alas, I gave up on that hope long ago.
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It took me freaking FOREVER to find the first season DVD set (ended up getting it from Amazon eventually). The whole series, though....man. Even though there are some episodes of the third season that I just can't force myself to endure (chief amongst them 'The Way to Eden' and 'The Savage Curtain'), I grew up on Star Trek reruns and I say the new view is freaking BRILLIANT! Sometimes I find that the score from some episodes - 'The Naked Time', 'The Enemy Within' and 'The Doomsday Machine' especial - gets stuck in my head for a day or longer. Ahhh, the memories. Fond and fine (or painful with regard to the Shat's third-season antics).
Now as to the Enterprise rendered in the new movie....eww. Just eww. That's all I can really say without sounding like a snotty Star Trek purist. I just hope the 'number curse' of the Trek films remains broken.
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Quote:Is this really so bad...?
Originally posted by Steamer:
Now as to the Enterprise rendered in the new movie....eww. Just eww. That's all I can really say without sounding like a snotty Star Trek purist.
Quote:The "curse" thing is bollocks IMO.
I just hope the 'number curse' of the Trek films remains broken.
1 & 3 were good, no matter what Andorians say.
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I dunno, it just looks....wrong. Maybe it'd look better if I hadn't grown up watching TOS reruns almost every afternoon.
And oh yes, 3 was good (just watched it last night in fact), and 10 was ugh. Other than that, though, there is something to the number curse if you ask me. ;) 2, for instance, was best of the lot. KHAAAANNNN!!!!
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Is this really so bad...?
Originally posted by Steamer:
Now as to the Enterprise rendered in the new movie....eww. Just eww. That's all I can really say without sounding like a snotty Star Trek purist.Quote:The "curse" thing is bollocks IMO.
I just hope the 'number curse' of the Trek films remains broken.
1 & 3 were good, no matter what Andorians say.
The laughing Chrisisall
I don't think so. Looks modern and that's what people really want. For newbies to the series (hard to imagine, I know) they'll think it looks, neat. Purists will have a problem with it. People like me who are sci-fi fans in general won't mind the change (at least I don't).
But that brings me to another question. I grew up watching TOS after school and what not. Watched TNG (loyally), DS9 and Voyager (not as much but still enjoyed them - didn't get into "Enterprise"), and have seen most of the movies except for maybe the last two. Though not a die-hard Trekkie, I do enjoy them as good sci-fi and I'm relatively familiar with the cannon. I want my kids to enjoy the Trek universe as well. How should I introduce them? I have the first movie at home (from the library) that I want us all to watch together, but I fear that would entail a build-up storytelling marathon on my part (or at the very least stopping the movie every now and then to explain the relationships and all that).
What would you all recommend I show them first? A few episodes of each series? Or what?
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I think the number "curse" applies more to the good films than bad. Yeah 3 was decent (would be better without Kirks pink uniform...) as was 1, but 2, 4, 6, and 8 are pretty far above the others.
Except, yeah, 10/Nemesis sucked hard. Far moreso than the odd-numbered Insurrection.
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