Dollhouse prospect for renewal not looking good.
POSTED BY: Haken
UPDATED: Sunday, April 12, 2009 09:54
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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
As a person who doesn't care for dollhouse, I'd be okay with that.
As a person who DOES care for Dollhouse, I'd be sorry to see it go.
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Originally posted by Phoenixship:
Things become clear only through the magic of TIME.
But the element that you're forgetting here is GOOD WRITING. The magic of GOOD WRITING means that while the story will unfold over time, it should still be compelling from the beginning. (At least compelling enough to make people come back enough times to get to the really good stuff).
Well, that's the thing, ain' it? We're not talking about people's alleged shallow need for 'instant gratification' or some such. I mean, one of my all-time favority SF shows, Babylon 5, was unique, in that it was the first long-term SF show in which story arcs were built up, and stretched out, over several years even. And it worked. People ARE patient, if need be. But every episode was good. Or near enough. However, when you get to the point in the show where you're crossing your fingers for the next episode, hoping it won't die, well, that's just another way of saying it ain't very good 'as is.' "Man in the street" was excellent. Superb, even. And Eliza Dushku is fair bunkable, for sure. But neither is, alone, good enough to warrant a next season. You need sustained, overall quality.
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How are "the forces of ignorance" winning here? The show got off to a slow start and hasn't yet been able to find an audience. Indeed, ratings continue to drop, and that's not the network's fault. That's flat storytelling and two-dimensional characters.
I'm not saying DOLLHOUSE is the worst show out there, but coming from someone as talented as Joss, it's been VERY disappointing so far.
Joss is a brilliant man. He really is. Very intelligent. Very witty. And a good writer. But I don't envy him his position. After he burnt his fingers on Firefly, so to speak, it seems he placated the FOX execs by dummyfying Dollhouse enough so that the man in the street could watch it (except for "Man in the street," of course). Seems like a good way to attract more viewers, no? Indeed, no! Because a dummed-down Joss show just ain't Joss any more. And now he's losing peeps that like him for his intelligent shows. Well, there ya have it: the perfect lose-lose situation. Far be it from telling the man how to do his job. I just wish Joss would have stayed true to his own self, is all, and made the show exactly the way he intended to, sans the endless compromise.
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Dear Joss,
You've created three incredible TV shows. The first two had years-long story arcs with unprecedented character development. You successfully mixed horror and humor. You produced a musical episode with great music - and it actually fit with the timeline of the series. You got Serenity made on a shoestring, which while not a commercial success, was a far sight better than 90 percent of the crap out there.
However, we are not willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. If your newest effort doesn't impress us with shiny objects and instant gratification, we're not willing to be patient.
Sorry.
Signed,
Your fans
"Why're you arguin' what's already been decided?"
Mal to Jayne, "Jaynestown"
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Dear Fellow Browncoats,
I must say that there's a lot of gloom and doom here, and I'm all aware that DH has had little success in knocking it out of the park in terms of individual eps, I somehow hold out hope that Joss is just warming up.
Now, the realist in me says that that doesn't bode well for the continuation of the story. Fox, as with most networks (as has been pointed out to me), is not very patient when it comes to new shows (no matter who is doing the writing).
The story, the expansion of what the Blue Sun Company did to River, was somewhats interesting to me (I'm a sucker for women who have 'super' powers and kick butt - Buffy, Dark Angel, Fifth Element) and I think I would have given it a chance no matter who wrote it. But since I knew it was Joss, I gave it more of a look see because of Firefly moreso than Buffy.
In the longrun, it is strictly up to Fox if this show continues and allows Joss to complete his story. As I said before, I'm a realist and I know as well as the next guy that if the numbers continue to decline Dollhouse is history. I too wish that Joss would follow his instincts and write the show HIS way and gives us what WE know he's capable of - GREATNESS.
Not all his shows are gonna be homeruns, so I say Joss go down swinging for the fences. To the rest of us, keep rooting for the 'home' team, it's only the fifth inning.
SGG
Tawabawho?
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Originally posted by Phoenixship:
Dear Joss,
You've created three incredible TV shows. The first two had years-long story arcs with unprecedented character development. You successfully mixed horror and humor. You produced a musical episode with great music - and it actually fit with the timeline of the series. You got Serenity made on a shoestring, which while not a commercial success, was a far sight better than 90 percent of the crap out there.
However, we are not willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. If your newest effort doesn't impress us with shiny objects and instant gratification, we're not willing to be patient.
Sorry.
Signed,
Your fans
[CHEtongueEK] P.S. This abomination you have wrought called Dollhouse should be picked up by its ankles and used to beat you senseless, for having so abused and disappointed The Base. [/CHEtongueEK]
But on a somewhat more serious note, how many episodes in a doubt?
W W R D ?
What would Rorschach do?
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I'm not a whedonesque zombie and will admit Dollhouse sucked
it deserves cancellation
SCRAP IT 
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