Impressed: (Zoe & Wash talk)
POSTED BY: QueenTiye
UPDATED: Sunday, November 17, 2002 19:19
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I guess that makes more sense than anything else I've heard. I know it's where "Bubba" comes from, cuz I have cousins we all call Bubba and Sissy. (At least no one in my family has a double first name. Yet.)
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Originally posted by ilovejayne:
I hadn't thought of that either. I used to know a guy whose actual given name was Bill. (And how we ever got "Bill" for William and "Bob" for Robert, I'll never understand.)
And how about Blue from William, as down Australia way?
Jeff
Who ponders Liz, Betty and Libby from Elizabeth.
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Originally posted by TinyTimm:
Jeff
Who ponders Liz, Betty and Libby from Elizabeth.
Liz makes sense to me. Elizabeth.
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Quote:Liz is just the most "stressed" or "emphasized" or "accented" syllable.
Jeff
Who ponders Liz, Betty and Libby from Elizabeth
Betty is the final syllable, with a consonant substitution: from a fricative or affricate to a stop... and that stop, although written as T instead of D, is more often pronounced vocally than non-vocally. That change and the addition of an "ee" at the end fit the little-kid pattern. "Th" is probably one of the more often substituted sounds, apparently a hard one to say right, as you can tell by how few languages other than English have it at all and how many English speakers continue to replace it with F or V even as adults. That would explain why Cynthia becomes Cindy: replacing the hard-to-say consonant with a vocal stop (because vocal stops are the easiest-to-say of them all) produced with the tongue somewhere near the same position.
Also remember that sometimes the consonant substitution is based on the most similar stop (in terms of how the sounds are formed) to the replaced consonant, as in Dick and Bill, but sometimes based on the next consonant after it, especially if that's a stop, as in Bob. Apply this to the Z in Elizabeth, and you get Libby (by skipping to the stop that comes after the hard-to-say consonant) or Liddy (by substituting the hard-to-say consonant for its nearest vocal stop relative)... both of which are nicknames actually used in the real world.
In other words, it's just more cases of little kids unable to say the actual names.
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I, too, started watching this show because I had seen Alan Tudyk on the commercials. I really like him as an actor...but I must say, so far I haven't seen enough from this character to know how I feel about Wash. Because I like the actor, I'm almost instinctively influenced to say that Wash is my favorite character...but if I really think about it, that isn't true. I haven't seen enough from him yet to know that. For whatever reason, his character has not been given much in the way of substance yet (although I will admit I did miss the first aired episode). I'm still waiting to see if it's Wash I like or just Alan Tudyk.
For those of you who can't stand him...go watch "A Knight's Tale," where he is fabulously brilliant as Wat. It might change your mind!
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This is actually really interesting. It sounds like you've studied the science of language. :) So, here's one that has had me VERY confused my entire life:
My grandmother's real name is Sarah. but all her life, her nickname has been Sally. What's up with that? even she doesn't know where it came from.
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It's an ancient scared text, not a magic eight ball.
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Originally posted by fabala30:
For those of you who can't stand him...go watch "A Knight's Tale," where he is fabulously brilliant as Wat. It might change your mind!
He's even better in 28 days. Gerhardt is the most amazing and amusing character. THAT is why I got into him.
~*Saint of Cheese*~
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I was excited when I saw him in the previews too. I said to my co-WhedonFreak friend "Look! It's that guy from 28 days!" and they all looked at me like I was crazy... no idea who i was talking about. I would have watched the show with or without him, but he's definitely an added bonus. :)
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Jayne: Complicated escape and rescue action.
Wash: I was gonna watch. It's VERY exciting.
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I love 28 days so much because of Gerhardt. I get these cravings... I just have to rent it and watch all of his scene whenever i'm unhappy. My mom and i always make little Gerhardt references in speech. (everytime Zoe and Wash kiss, my mom goes "oh! the tiny clusters of tumors in my brain!") 
I have that whole fork rant memorized.
~*Saint of Cheese*~
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Originally posted by ELKA:
at this point, what i'm really curious about is why they call him 'Wash' .
The bumpkiniest of the Bumpkin Army.
Fake name -- his real name is probably some girl-ish thing or some really old name like "Thaddeus." Or, he could have a warrant out for his arrest that only idenifies him by name. Or it could be some kind of running joke. Or it could have some connection to his last name -- whatever the h**l that is. My pet theroy is that his real name is Han Solo. Still working out the details, like what that has to do with "Wash."
Sensou
Sweet is love when all is sane
Sweet is death to end the pain
Cruel is death when all is well
Curel is love when all is hell
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