TSCC Rules
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UPDATED: Saturday, May 2, 2009 13:37
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As a huge Whedon fan I hate to say this, but TSCC has been writing and acting rings around Dollhouse lately. The finale should be equally intense, and even though it will take a miracle to get a renewal I am pleased the producers wrote the story the way they wanted to, even if we end on a huge cliffhanger.
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Quote:This, I don't understand and a lot of people keep saying it.
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Summer was nothing less than epic and brilliant.
She's a robot. She's monotonous. She does the same thing every week. How is that performance "epic and brilliant"? Unless I've been blinking and missing it, there's absolutely no range or depth to what she's being given to do....
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Hell's Kitten,
Sorry, I don't know if this even merits a response. The audience has seen a lot of cold calculating automatons in science fiction, and Summer is the best one to date. I think it's one of the hardest things to do. Her performance is spectacular.
A lot of people think that emotional hysterical is good acting. Sometimes it is. But just acting emotional and engaging is not acting, it's what you do every day. Randomly walk on to the set and be yourself is not a display of talent. Eliza in that way was very disappointing. She was just Eliza, on camera. When pressed to be someone else, there's not a lot of range. The space in between River, Cameron, and Summer is huge. I think she's probably the best thing going right now. Lena isn't bad herself. I think Dekker's is the performance that needs work.
Here are some things that actors aren't in general:
Robotic
Psychoic
Insecure
Delusional
Retarded
Geriatric
Someone else
If you can carry these off, it's a display of talent. The much maligned by geeks, George Clooney, as Clark Gable in OBWAT was very impressive. Jennifer Jason Leigh, imho the most talented person on the silver screen, is excellent in everything.
Here are some things that actors generally are
Human
Emotional
Confident
Intelligent
Young
Sane
Themselves
If they carry these things off, it's a sign of nothing. If they fail to carry them, then it's a sign of a lack of talent.
But jumping shows for a moment: Heroes is an odd mix of talent. I think Sylar is very good. He's probably the best actor on the show. Danko is good, Noah and Nathan are decent, Claire and her mother need work, Peter is probably a total wash. Ali Larter was good enough that they had her on again.
The BSG cast is probably the best collection in a while. Buffy, BSG, Farscape had some decent actors on it.
Allison Hannigan is adorable and makes a wonderful Willow and probably isn't all that talented. Sarah Michele does an excellent faith during the switch. Contrast it with Eliza's Buffy. They're not on a level. I think most of the guys Joss casts lack talent. The best imho is probably Nathan.
Not only have we seen a lot of robots, and I mean a very large number, we've actually seen a lot of terminators. At least six. Summer's performance is stunning. I think she's secured herself a career.
I think people get confused with actors who are "cute" and ones who can act. Hollywood is filled with pretty girls. Only one of them is Nicole Kidman. Maybe there are half a dozen up there on that level. But there are plenty cute enough.
Notice I didn't even mention Daphne on Heroes, who is much better looking than anyone else. Also, Julia Lee appears in several episodes of Buffy and Angel, and his hands down the most gorgeous woman on either show, before perhaps on television, ever. Bonus points for anyone who can tell me a character she plays without looking it up.
If you want a real contrast, watch single white female. Brigit Fonda is gorgeous, and a decent actress. I'll give her five stars for looks and four for talent. She plays opposite Jennifer Jason Leigh, swap that and call her 4 stars for looks and 5 for talent. Then watch Leigh mop the floor with Fonda. Brigit Fonda is the shining star of a lot of other movies, but there's no substitute for raw talent. Looks help, but they're not the only reason that Tricia Helfer is going to be the name that comes out of BSG. The makers of the show knew that when they cast the show. Gaius is pretty good also.
I would say summer was wasted on television, but hollywood has a talent for wasting talent. Consider this utter waste of two of hollywood's most wasted talents: Anna Paquin and Kirsten Dunst. We enjoy them as Marvel characters, but we all know that that they are way up near the top of the talent list, and that none of the roles they get are at all demanding. There's a curse to being cute in this regard: No one wants to make you a deranged psychopath. With luck, Summer will get more roles than this, and not end up some superheroes girlfriend. (Ch
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Quote:...meaning, my post or yours?
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Sorry, I don't know if this even merits a response.
Cuz yours was pretty frikkin' long if mine didn't merit a response.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:Quote:
Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Summer was nothing less than epic and brilliant.
This, I don't understand and a lot of people keep saying it.
She's a robot. She's monotonous. She does the same thing every week. How is that performance "epic and brilliant"? Unless I've been blinking and missing it, there's absolutely no range or depth to what she's being given to do....
I applaud you for your courage saying that here. :) Especially since I think you're absolutely right. Summer Glau as "Allison from Palmdale" was nothing less than epic and brilliant, yes (still gives me the chills). Summer as Cameron, however, is monotonous. She does the same thing every week... Oh wait a tick, you already said that! It bears repeating, though.
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Quote:
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Here are some things that actors generally are
Human
Emotional
Confident
Intelligent
Young
Sane
Themselves
If they carry these things off, it's a sign of nothing. If they fail to carry them, then it's a sign of a lack of talent.
Just a side note. If it's a lack of talent to not be able to portray these things, then it must be a talent to be able to portray them. Therefore it is not a sign of nothing to be able to do these things
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Speaking of Anna Paquin
what do you think of True Blood?
" They don't hate America, they hate Americans " Homer Simpson
Lets party like its 1939
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I think that a major error of the show was to push summer to the side for about 1/2 the episodes. those where she is uninteresting are not where she's flat, but where she's basically absent. Lots of eps she does very little, so there's no internal conflict.
As for the rest of it, whatever. Here's Cameron as her flat self in what I thought was one of the better scenes. I reiterate we have seen a very large number of people play psychotic robots in our sci-fi viewing history, probably too many to count. Summer is the most convincing one I've ever seen. That's worthy of note.
I haven't seen "True Blood."
For some reason, the sound kicked out on my ubuntu, and I can't watch anything.
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When the producers started to focus on Sarah because her name is in the title so it should be her show, that's when it was losing me for a while.
The Jesse/Derek storylines were pushed in the background and confusing. Though the payoff was good, it took too long to get there.
John and Cameron are two of the better parts of the show. Summer does and excellent job and I would like to see more from her. When the show started the was mystery around her and her model of Terminator, which was supposedly different and unique. That has been pushed aside (and not even mentioned really) while Sarah chased her 3 dots. Really this show should be about John and how he grows to be the leader of the future. We have seen some of that, but it hasn't always been the focus. I would have liked to see more of his interactions with Derek as the talked tactics, or weapons training with Cameron (which would also give them more on screen time to interact). I know John's had this kind of training as a kid, but he's still a teenager. There's no reason why it should stop.
In recent episode John has been taking some control from Sarah by confronting Jesse and saving the little girl. Those were his calls. That's one of the reason's they were better episodes. I was to see a strong but flawed John Connor grow and become stronger. That's why I watch the show.
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Here are some of the Cameron highlights.
http://tinyurl.com/d6nmb6
Unfortunately, my favorite scene isn't included. Mine was the encounter between Cameron and the kid at school telling her about someone looking for John. The way she looked at him was summed up very well by the boy. "Hectic".
Oh, and here's a great photo of Summer too.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/danregal/3326904053/
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