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Ways to solve global warming

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 11:04 PM

Byte ?

Baltimore.
Area code 21225.
http://www.scorecard.org/env-releases/lead/county.tcl?fips_county_code
=24510#rank


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0#major_chemical_releases


http://www.scorecard.org/env-releases/hap/county.tcl?fips_county_code=
24510#rankings


http://www.scorecard.org/community/who.tcl?fips_county_code=24510&name
=BALTIMORE%20(CITY)&zip_code=21225


I used to work security FOR the number one polluter on this list, when someone else owned em, and thus happen to know it's even worse than reported cause of all the crap they succeeded in covering up.

And yeah, I lived in the downwind/downstream neighborhood.

Ground freakin zero for the very worst of all of that, in a rowhome apt which oughta have been condemned - for enough years that it just don't matter no more.

Imma dead man walking, I know this, which is one of the reasons I get so irate with folk who bash me for smoking - that's right up there with refusing painkillers to someone who has a month to live cause they might get addicted, yes ?

Believe me, if smokin is what kills me, I'll be one heavily surprised old bastard - once I realized just how bad the end of life damage was gonna be, I decided to simply live my life in whatever fashion pleased me the most without worryin about when the clock is gonna stop, cause it eventually does for all of us, and mine just "went into the red" on my projected life expectancy anyway.

Every moment now is stolen right out from under the reaper, and I damn well mean to make the most of it!


-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 11:16 PM

Cripes, and people live there? Still?

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 11:18 PM

Hah! You 'n' me both, Frem. We must be birds of a toxic feather.

My own personal poison is Agent Orange - or near e-damn-nuff to it. I got to spend a wonderful year back in the 70s doing ground-work for crop dusters - flagging the dusters through the mesquite brush of West Texas, while they sprayed 2,4,5-T (the active ingredient in Agent Orange) on the mesquite trees to kill 'em. To make the stuff work better, they mixed it with diesel fuel, then sprayed it all across West Texas. Killed the shit out of the mesquite - and pretty much everything else it touched.

The pay was good - about three times minimum wage back then, which was great money for a 16-year-old kid. We were assured the stuff was totally harmless - just like the soldiers in 'Nam were assured of the same. "Hell, you could BATHE in this stuff and it wouldn't hurt ya!" Instead, we were pretty much showered with it, when the planes didn't turn off the sprayers early enough.

Of the bunch of us that worked together that year, I'm the last one left alive, as far as I can tell. I don't spend a whole lot of time wondering what's going to kill me - if anything, I just wonder why it hasn't already! And pretty much any day above ground is a freebie at this point.

Mike

just lying smiling in the dark
shooting stars around your heart
dreams come bouncing in your head
pure and simple everytime
now you're crying in your sleep
i wish you'd never learnt to weep
don't sell the dreams you should be keeping
pure and simple everytime

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 11:49 PM

That soil sounds awesome, definitely something that the world at large should cultivate and make use of right away.

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Originally posted by citizen:
using fuels that will run out soon, that's what you always say, right?


Drill baby, drill.

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quite literally,there's NO power unless the wind is blowing, and that simply isn't a reliable source.


Quite literally, you are dead wrong. My entire household has been running solely on wind power for years. S-O-L-E-L-Y. I don't want you to miss that word, it's very important. Solely. Running solely on wind power, I've had no problems with my power levels at all. For years. Sure, I'm in a pretty windy state, but that doesn't mean it's always spinning the turbines. And still I have no problems.
Oil mogul T. Boone Pickens is 100% convinced that building turbines down the country's wind channel would generate plenty of energy to power everything, leaving our rather vast reserves of natural gas free to power the cars, and our more limited reserves of diesel-type fuel free to power the large delivery trucks. I see no reason to disagree with his vision.


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Friday, April 3, 2009 12:04 AM

I don't believe that one anecdotal case ( your house ) is evidence for switching over completely to wind power to run cities. As I've stated, I'm ok w/ using wind power, but over all, it's unreliable. Rare are the places where there's a constant supply of wind ( not too fast, not too slow , mind you ). Of course , Ted Kennedy doesn't want any thing to do w/ wind power, not in HIS back yard.






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Friday, April 3, 2009 12:14 AM

You're right, I'm sure my house is the only one. We've paid for the construction of all those massive turbines all by our lonesome.

There's a great deal of open land right behind my neighborhood/house, with plenty of wind off the mountains coming through pretty regularly. They can build more right there if they wanna, I'm happy to have it in my back yard.

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Friday, April 3, 2009 12:21 AM

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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Quite literally, you are dead wrong. My entire household has been running solely on wind power for years. S-O-L-E-L-Y. I don't want you to miss that word, it's very important. Solely. Running solely on wind power, I've had no problems with my power levels at all. For years. Sure, I'm in a pretty windy state, but that doesn't mean it's always spinning the turbines. And still I have no problems.


So do you generate your own power or do you have a service provider?
If service provider, is it 100% wind generated or a certain percentage?
If a service provider, how can you be 100% sure that 100% of your power is wind generated?

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Friday, April 3, 2009 12:29 AM

When it was first implemented, we were told that I think a maximum of 80% but no less than 50% of our power would be coming from wind, and we had to pay a premium for the service. As it gained momentum, cash, and efficiency, our cost went down a bit and our guaranteed percentage of power went up, until it was 100% and our power cost for wind was only marginally more than it might otherwise have been. Can I be sure their claims aren't false? I suppose not, but it seems a stupid claim to make. If you're going to make false claims about percentages like that, raise your rates at the same time, or something. Basically, as there's no profit in the lie, I think it most likely to be true. And I've seen those big ol' blades spinning out by the highways, that can't all be for show

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Friday, April 3, 2009 12:56 AM

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Cripes, and people live there? Still?

Yep, no choice - only place they can afford to.

And the nearest grocery store which doesn't charge $4.99/Gal for milk is 15 miles away and the local 14 Bus tends to be awfully snippy about carryin groceries onboard, not to mention no local employer will hire anyone who's phone extension begins with 355 or 354, which combined with the fact that car insurance, inspection and emissions makes it impossible for most folk there to legally own a vehicle - it's a freakin roach motel, once you wind up in that neighborhood, you ain't NEVER gettin out, and most of the folks who find their way there to begin with are kids dumped out at eighteen with no backup or real-life skills, throwaway kids, or single moms dumped by a jackass playa who didn't wanna man up and be a husband and father.

I had the fortune of actual life/household skills and a decent job, leastways before the accident - but even so due to the suicide of my only remaining viable legal guardian, wound up in much the same boat as throwaways, and being seventeen and an emancipated minor with no parental support, had to pay a hefty bribe to even get a landlord to rent to me, which I obtained from mugging a couple of local street dealers.

Playin by the rules damn near killed me, in the end it was crime that got me out of the whirlpool of death, workin three jobs and still not able to pay the bills, watching it all slide oh so slowly to hell and it's only prolonging the agony as you have no time or ability to look for anything better, or pound out the desperate legal fight to obtain any kind of assistance, and then blam, crippling injuries on top of it ?

That place is death, in every way there is.

Oh yeah, when asked why the lung cancer rate for the area was seven hundred times the national average, local officials said "More people in that neighborhood smoke cigarettes"

No mention of the huge pollution previously mentioned, four waste incinerators including medical, badly run and not up to code, the leachates and chromium in the landfills, or the lead and asbestos from the naval yard.
http://www.asbestosnews.com/workplace/shipyards/curtis-bay-shipyard.ht
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A completely horrific amount of pollution, misery, corrupt police, exploitive and predatory local businesses on top of many other problems cause of the NIMBY principle concentrated into a teeny little area blocked off geographically as well as economically, from anywhere that isn't a hellhole.

What it takes to climb out, will leave wounds that never heal completely.

People like me and Wulf don't just pop out the way we are, it's one of the reasons I am ever so more merciful to him despite his struggles with his own prejudices, cause I know how he got like that to begin with.
Don't mean I won't bonk him on the head over it, but gently, mind.

Taken in the light and view from ground zero I have just presented it - the idea of us spending billions on a vague and laughable "threat" in the middle east is criminally insane, isn't it ?

The real threats to our people and intended way of life are HERE, right before us.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Friday, April 3, 2009 12:59 AM

I'm still in love with vertical wind turbines. Damn, they're just sexy! Can you imagine all of the high-rises with a grove of 'em on top????

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

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