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Ways to solve global warming

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RUE
Thursday, April 2, 2009 1:46 AM

I'm starting to think - not.

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 1:56 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
So, Rap

"What he said was - even if it's NOT true there are still many benefits to alternative energy ("sustainable, non-polluting potentially cheaper power generation").

And why wouldn't you want that ?"

Any answer ?

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Hey, I'm all for efficiency. I laugh at the stupidity of city folks who drive SUVs that never come closer to the wild frontier than rolling over the dirt spilled by a dump truck. But let the public choose what they want to drive, and dont' try to guilt us into driving crap cars that don't come anywhere near " saving the planet " unless that's what they truly want to drive.

The kook fringe Left that's driving the anti- EVERYTHING post Industrial Revolution attack on the world won't even listen to reason. There's no such thing as clean coal ? Oh, ok, fine. No nukes ? Geee, where the fuck are we suppose to get our energy from ? Wind power ? When the giant blades aren't slicing away the planet's bird population, there's nothing. Quite literally,there's NO power unless the wind is blowing, and that simply isn't a reliable source. What IS reliable is Nuclear power, but hell, the wackos don't want that either, because you can't bury it anywhere. ( Don't tell that to France, 80% of their electric power comes from nuke power )

So, sure, there's some things we can do, but the hard core truth about power in the 21st century is that oil gives more bang for the buck than any other source, and it's not even close.



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Thursday, April 2, 2009 1:59 AM

Hey simmer, I'm watching VH1's Greatest 1 hit wonders from the 80's.

My attention isn't all here, k ?



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RUE
Thursday, April 2, 2009 2:24 AM

So your short answer is oil, or coal or nuclear - and nothing else.

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 2:46 AM

I wonder how much of that biochar is nanotubes or buckeyballs????

But, terraforming earth... I can think of a LOT of places where that would work well. What the ancients used to do was start a fire on the ground and then smother it... low-tech pyrolysis. One really GOOD place to start would be the tropics. The problem with the tropics is that the soil degrades so very quickly under the onslaught of so much rain.

The northwest areas that have been clear-cut (in preparation for deforestation). Central Valley CA. The Great Plains. Parts of Australia.

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RUE
Thursday, April 2, 2009 2:53 AM

I was looking it up - there is a UN proposal to use biochar to restore degraded agricultural land: http://www.ecoversity.org/archives/UNCCD-biochar-pyrolysis.pdf

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RUE
Thursday, April 2, 2009 2:58 AM

I wonder how much of that biochar is PAHs ?

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Anyway ... I'm going off-line now in a nice hazy daydream of a better world ...

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 2:59 AM

Hello,

It seems logical that if you don’t develop alternative energy, then alternative energy will never be as good as the energy you’ve got right now.

Kind of like how a steam engine is much more efficient than a hybrid gasoline engine that no one builds.

I do wish that the tree-hugger crowd would abandon global warming arguments that make some people bristle. As someone wisely said, low-cost, efficient, low-polluting energy is its own reward. You don’t need anything else to sell it.

If I was president, there are probably two energy technologies I would strive to develop for the good of all humanity: Efficient Energy Storage and Solar Power.

Of the two, Efficient Energy Storage is much more important. Once you have the ability to store all available energy, you can get energy from all available sources. Heinlein had it right. The future of energy isn’t in some whizbang amazing sci-fi reactor. It’s in being able to store and transport energy easily and efficiently. Capture lightning-bolts in Seattle, Miami, and London. Capture sunlight in Arizona, New Mexico, and Nevada. Capture Hydroelectric and Geothermal wherever there is a mountain. Run every energy generating or capturing device at full throttle all the time. The trick is merely to store it for use as needed, and then all energy becomes embarrassingly cheap.

--Anthony

"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner

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RUE
Thursday, April 2, 2009 3:00 AM

So true ...

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Thursday, April 2, 2009 3:14 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
So your short answer is oil, or coal or nuclear - and nothing else.

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Depends on what you're talking 'bout. Solar isn't going to run your car, but it can, in limited cases, help run a house. Same for wind power. But to power a car, and get it over hills and over the long haul, yeah, oil based fuels are still the way.



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