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Cheney's assasination ring

POSTED BY: SignyM
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Wednesday, March 18, 2009 6:07 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
HAHAHA!


Okay, okay, "Cheny assassination ring" sounds a little like his secret decoder ring. How about "squad"? Does that do it for ya?

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Oh, DAMN! I liked it better the other way! I just got a giggle out of it every time I read it. Just imagining Cheney taking a bead on someone with his super-double-secret-phaser-ring, and letting out his evil little laugh while he smoked 'em with it.

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Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:38 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:




Perfect! That's exactly the mental image I see when reading the original thread title!

Mike



The "On Fire" Economy -
The Dow closed at 10,587.60 on January 20, 2001, the day GW Bush took office. Eight years later, it closed below 8000 on the day he left office - a net loss of 25%. That's what conservatives call an economic "success".

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Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:20 AM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
GEEZER
That's what I said: This stuff has been going on for DECADES.

Of course, that doesn't explain why you then turn around and say: We didn't assassinate people in Vietnam or prop up tyrants around the world.



What? I know perfectly well that we "assassinated" VC and NVA in Vietnam, since we killed them with long range rifles or silenced pistols instead of in a stand-up fight. I also saw the reports of what the VC and NVA did to anyone not sufficiently committed to their cause. Remember Col. Kurtz's speech about the pile of childrens arms in "Apocalypse Now"? That wasn't fiction. That was VC policy in action.

And I'm sure we propped up tyrants, in situations where we considered them the lesser of two evils. In hindsight, some were probably mistakes. Some probably weren't.

"Keep the Shiny side up"

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Thursday, March 19, 2009 1:32 PM

Okay, since YOU claim we've been assassinating people for years PROVIDE SOME EXAMPLES HERE (aside from Castro).

'Cause either this is a radical departure from past practice, or it's been more-or-less SOP since... well, Kennedy. And if it's been SOP since that long, you should have DOZENS of examples to choose from.

Start listing. If you make 'em juicy, Cheney doesn't look so god-awful by comparison:



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Thursday, March 19, 2009 2:33 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
SOP since... well, Kennedy.

That would be my pick.


The laughing Chrisisall

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Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:00 PM

Well, Geezer is faced with several options:

1) He can find a half-dozen really horrific examples of USA extra-legal practices, and give up on the notion that our actions were always honorable and our motives always pure.

2)He can find a half-dozen really horrific examples of USA extra-legal practices and try to justify them, giving up on the notion that although our actions weren't always honorable at leats our intentions were good. (But I'll give him a run for his money on this one, and I think he knows it.)

3) He can shove Cheney under the bus.

BTW- You know ONE THING that would cause riots in the streets? Proof bin Laden was assassinated many years ago, and was simply held up as a boogeyman to frighten the American people.

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Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:04 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
You know ONE THING that would cause riots in the streets? Proof bin Laden was assassinated many years ago, and was simply held up as a boogeyman to frighten the American people.


Nah, so many are aware of the fact he's gone & his name was used for that purpose...but he wasn't assassinated, he died on his toilet (okay, a REALLY nice bucket).


The laughing Chrisisall

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Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:12 PM

Example of police psyop: Symbionese Liberation Army

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Think about it: The (convicted felon) guy who committed one of the most startling kidnapping (and murders) in American history later (with the possible exception of the Lindbergh baby) became an investigator for the San Francisco District Attorney. That’s a pretty startling career move.
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2009/03/late-breaking-news-on-sla.html



To Provoke War, Cheney Considered Proposal To Dress Up Navy Seals As Iranians And Shoot At Them, July 31, 2008
www.thinkprogress.org/2008/07/31/cheney-proposal-for-iran-war/

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by SignyM:
SOP since... well, Kennedy.

That would be my pick.


JFK Sr was assassinated by CIA's Operation Mongoose, which was part of Operation Northwoods, which was declassified by NSA in 2000 as 2-million pages of JFK files ordered declassified by Congress, thanks to Oliver Stone's documentary JFK, which mentioned Mongoose.
www.dailymotion.com/video/x81wug_jfk-oliver-stone-fr-112_shortfilms

Northwoods is why JFK planned "to break the CIA into 1,000 pieces".
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1
www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/doc1.pdf

Mongoose/Northwoods was founded and run by Nixon, probably without Ike's knowledge, hence Ike's final warning about the Military Industrial Complex.

Nixon's convicted Watergate CIA burglers, E Howard Hunt and Frank Sturgis, were found "guilty" of the JFK murder by a civil libel jury, in Hunt v Liberty Lobby (aka The Spotlight, aka American Free Press). LL's attorney Mark Lane wrote a book about it, Plausible Denial.

Nixon's convicted chief of staff HR Halderman, in his autobiography, The Ends of Power, wrote that in the Watergate tapes, when Nixon said "Bay of Pigs" (Project Mongoose), that was code for the JFK murder.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._R._Haldeman
www.watergate.info/tapes/72-06-23_smoking-gun.shtml

Hunt confessed his guilt on his deathbead to his son, St John Hunt, on audio and videotape, published by Rolling Stone (censored by all other media mafia).
www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/13893143/the_last_confessions_of_e
_howard_hunt

www.infowars.com/articles/us/jfk_hunt_confessed_cia_murdered_jfk.htm
www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2007/300407deathbedconfession.htm
www.infowars.com/?p=5488
www.saintjohnhunt.com
www.myspace.com/saintjohnandthesinners

JFK Jr and family were assassinated to stop his campaign for US Senate in NY vs Billary Blythe Clinton Rockefeller, and president vs Bush Jr.
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=jfk+oliver+stone&emb=0&aq=f#q=jf
k+jr+assassination&emb=1


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Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:53 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
Okay, since YOU claim we've been assassinating people for years PROVIDE SOME EXAMPLES HERE...



Note that I said "assassinating" in quotes. Picture me making air "quotation marks" signs with my fingers when I say it. What I consider an actual assassination and what Mr. Hersch considers "assasination" probably differ quite a bit.

What Mr. Hersch would probably consider "assasinations"(imagine the air quotes here) in Vietnam were killings of known VC and NVA commanders, spies, informers, etc. by Special Forces or SOG teams or snipers. These are pretty well documented in any history of Special Operations in Vietnam.

I have no doubt that such "assassinations"(air quotes again) were carried out during various counter-insurgency operations in which the U.S. participated during the Cold War; principally in Central and South America. Killings of enemy officers, agents, and such by stealth, rather than in battle.

We're carrying out such "assassinations"(Yep. More air quotes) today in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan, using Special Operations teams and Predator drones.

I suspect that Mr. Hersch's "assassination squads" are various Special Operations groups who are attacking the command and control structure of Al Qaeda and the Taliban. I don't have a problem with this, since I consider Al Qaeda and the Taliban aggressive enemies in a declared war.

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Thursday, March 19, 2009 4:54 PM

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Well, Geezer is faced with several options:



None of which you guessed.

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