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Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:32 PM

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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
You and Wulf are youngins' so you have more "theory" or in Wulf's case, unfocused anger/energy...


heh.. ok. Wildly wrong, but "ok".

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:42 PM

Mafia Illinois just doubled their bogus state income tax. BTW 5 Illinois governors have been sent to prison.
www.whatreallyhappened.com/content/illinois-gov-propose-50-increase-st
ate-income-tax


Redlight Scamera Companies Bribe EACH Politician $72,000 per YEAR, which does NOTHING to fund govt. 95% of robocop ticket tax is outsourced offshore, which does NOTHING to fund govt.
www.thenewspaper.com/news/27/2712.asp

Lawyers, judges and politicians agree, the best defense for all camera tickets is to throw them in the trash and ignore them, for lacking mandatory personal service of process, as required in all civil lawsuits. Even cops are shooting these traffic cameras with bullets, cuz they don't like being replaced by foreign military contractors that export 95% of ticket taxes to Australia, England and Commie China.
www.piratenews.org/kill-robocops.html

Cops and politicians run the cartheft rackets via mafia towtruck contractors, just like cops run and tax all other crime rackets. Cops give free title to car thieves for any vehicle listed as stolen in NCIC database. Grand jury refused to indict last month for theft of my 2 cars, because govt employees have immunity for all crimes (govt = organized crime gang).
www.piratenews.org/affidavit-criminal-complaint13jun05.htm
www.piratenews.org/newslinks.html

Our previous sheriff went to prison for $1-million in cartheft (1 night's work), and our next sheriff confessed in the news to stealing parked cars at the mall with a convicted copkilling towtrucker (never arrested despite 6 convictions for perjury and renting an airport from a convicted drug dealer). The towtrucker had a shopping list of specific vehicles to be chopped for parts, and the sheriff was lookout. The mafia-owned mall had no security cameras.

Cops and courts can never force anyone to buy insurance from a private corporation. Insurance execs pay themselves $200,000 PER WEEK PER PERSON salaries, not counting Warren Buffet (GEICO Govt Employees Insurance Corp CIA) who paid himself $30-Billion tax free in just one year. Read your state's statute on "financial responsibility" and you'll see dozens of "exceptions" to the "requirement" for insurance.

Private persons can never be rquired to buy driver license contracts nor vehicle registration contracts, which can only be required for commercial drivers for-hire and for corporate vehicles. Note that traffic tickets are the easiest of all lawsuits to win, and you can even get PAID A PROFIT in traffic court. Even if you lose in traffic court, 50% of losers never have to pay tickets nor court costs, by using their Homestead Exemption and Affidavit of Indigency (which includes your $10-million home in Florida).
www.piratenews.org/how-to-win-in-dragon-court.html

Boat drivers don't need driver licenses, and aircraft pilots need neither pilot licenses nor vehicle registration in USA (ultralights, "student" pilots or self-taught pilots). There is no such thing as a "pilot license" - it's called a "pilot certificate", and is mainly for advanced training in high-performance aircraft (no speed limits) and commercial pilots for-hire. Unlike driving a car, pilots get excellent training, especially in emergency procedures and high-speeds, and any pilot can fly 1,000 mph if they want to (if they can figure out how to afford it).


No pilot license required for ultralights, registration optional, you can even build it yerself


Quote:

"How can I get the Captain to shoot a cop in the face, and make it right? That extra moment of sadism - that's the thing that says it's okay, buddy, you're not up to spec, you're going down!"
-Joss the Boss, Firefly DVD, censored Episode 1 "Serenity"
www.megavideo.com/?v=JVT35GR8

The Battle of Athens TN 1946
700 veterans open fire on 300 cops for bogus speeding tickets
http://piratenews-tv.blogspot.com/2008/02/battle-of-athens.html


www.piratenews.org/kill-robocops

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Wednesday, March 18, 2009 12:05 AM

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
Quote:

Originally posted by pizmobeach:
You and Wulf are youngins' so you have more "theory" or in Wulf's case, unfocused anger/energy...


heh.. ok. Wildly wrong, but "ok".




Just trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. If you aren't "young" then you should f*cking know better.

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Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:05 AM

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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
If you aren't "young" then you should f*cking know better.



It saddens me that I don't live up to your list of "shoulds".

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Wednesday, March 18, 2009 1:50 AM

"Or, hey, do something. Apart from posting on a fan site. I just don't see it."

Just collating data, as they say.

Besides, who would ever think of starting a revolution by grabbing soldiers off a "fan site"...right?


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Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:18 AM

I just been through this bullshit with the traffic tickets issued by cameras. Ok Arizona is now putting a end to the ones on the highway. But Tucson still has 4 that are with the city. Now the green arrow light last about 2 seconds. If your caught in the middle because jackass infront stops to get in the other lane bam a 280 dollar ticket with a mandatory 40 dollar traffic school. I admitted to guilt even though I was not at fault but I did not realize the fine. It doesn't matter with a lawyer you won't beat it in court. Now everyone in this class got photoed at that light. Now something is up. This is taking citizens and making them criminals. The state is in the red 90 million. But there is a way to beat it. Traffic tickets have to be administered by law by a policeman they cannot mail it to you. So don't return the letter just dump it. They will send a cop out so don't answer the door. From the time you get the ticket it will be a 4 month wait till they dismiss it in court. Plenty of people I know have done this checked there case on the web and sure enough dimissed. The cop may come out twice they got alot to do more likely once.

"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

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Wednesday, March 18, 2009 8:12 AM

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Originally posted by PirateCat:
I just been through this bullshit with the traffic tickets issued by cameras. But there is a way to beat it. Traffic tickets have to be administered by law by a policeman they cannot mail it to you. So don't return the letter just dump it. They will send a cop out so don't answer the door. From the time you get the ticket it will be a 4 month wait till they dismiss it in court. Plenty of people I know have done this checked there case on the web and sure enough dimissed. The cop may come out twice they got alot to do more likely once.


Do they actually send a cop for redlight tickets? That cuts their profit tremendously.

Service of process by cop costs $75 in normal lawsuits, because they have to pay the cop to do it. Normally ONLY sheriff deputies do service of process, NOT city cops (who do redlight scameras). I used to do that job for a law firm serving subpoenas, and it's a lot of work chasing folks down at home, and that's for million-dollar lawsuits. It makes no sense to do that much work for a $200 lawsuit. City courts even refuse to mail redlight tickets registered mail with return receipt signature required, which only costs $3, since that "costs too much".

Better to just bluff the suckers who wet themselves when they see their own shadow, since that's 95% of the population.

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Wednesday, March 18, 2009 10:22 AM

PN, on the ticket it says a cop looked at the pictures and administered the ticket. My buddy at work said a plain clothes cop came out. Now I am not sure who handles it Sheriff or City. I know Honest Pirate Cat the boob paid it like a dumb ass. Like my buddy just didn't answer the door. It is a racket. No kidden about the green arrow lasting 2 seconds. The third car at best gets snapped. I sat through an 8 hour class on a sunday during NFL season OMG was I hot. All good citizens too. The US will be like England soon.

"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

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Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:59 AM

Any decent lawyer should be able to get it thrown out, PirateCat - it won't save you a bunch of money, but a group of people could try to go class-action with it, if you can find an attorney who wants publicity more than money.

These cameras aren't operated by the police - they're contracted out to private for-profit companies. They tried them in Austin, but it didn't last long, once someone fought it in court and discovered that the company operating the cameras and collecting the money didn't have the proper certification to operate them. The city only gets about 7% of the fines, the company keeps the rest - so the city isn't going to spend a bunch of money tracking down those who don't pay or who fight the tickets in court.

And it's well-documented - ESPECIALLY in Arizona (look up Car&Driver editor Patrick Bedard's columns on the subject) - that the companies are typically "shorting" the green arrows and yellow lights when they install the cameras. In other words, instead of a three- or four-second yellow light, you get maybe two seconds. And studies show that LENGTHENING the yellow light's interval by a second drastically cuts accidents in intersections - but they're doing the reverse, and claiming it's somehow about "safety". It's about nothing more than revenue generation.

There are ways to fight it, both legal and extralegal. The primary aim is to make it more costly to operate the cameras than any revenue they might generate. No for-profit company sticks around with a losing business plan for very long. If people were willing to fight every camera ticket, shoot, burn, vandalize, or disable every red-light and photo-radar camera (not advocating such behavior; just putting out a hypothetical), and it will go down in history as a failed experiment.

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Wednesday, March 18, 2009 5:24 PM

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Originally posted by SergeantX:
It saddens me that I don't live up to your list of "shoulds".


Well, it damn well should.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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