Cheney's assasination ring

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SIGNYM

Tuesday, March 17, 2009 5:17 PM

From Dennis Kucinich

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Dear Chairman Towns:
As you may already be aware, recent media reports indicate that investigative reporter, Seymour Hersh, while answering questions before a public audience at the University of Minnesota divulged information about what he calls an “executive assassination ring” operating under the George W. Bush Administration.

If substantiated, the allegation would have far reaching implications for the United States. Such an assertion from someone of Hersh’s credibility that has a long and proven track record of dependability on these issues merits attention. Mr. Hersh is within a year or more of releasing a book that is said to include evidence of this allegation. However, we cannot wait a year or more to establish the truth. As such, I request that the Full Committee immediately begin an investigation to determine the facts in this matter.

Mr. Hersh made the allegation before an audience at the University of Minnesota on Tuesday, March 10, 2009. He stated, “Under President Bush’s authority, they’ve been going into countries, not talking to the ambassador or the CIA station chief, and finding people on a list and executing them and leaving.”

Hersh has always been an extremely reliable investigative reporter. I'd take this pretty seriously.

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CHRISISALL

Tuesday, March 17, 2009 5:33 PM

Who is "they?"

The laughing Chrisisall

SIGNYM

Tuesday, March 17, 2009 5:52 PM

"I don’t know. That’s why they call them they. And them"(Conspiracy Theory Mel Gibson)

I dunno. Do you recall the "secret weapon" that was hinted at as being the reason for success in Iraq? Wonder if the two are connected. Seems we should find out.

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CHRISISALL

Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:01 PM

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Originally posted by SignyM:
"I don’t know. That’s why they call them they. And them"(Conspiracy Theory Mel Gibson)

One of my all-time favourites.

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Seems we should find out.

"a special wing of our special operations community that is set up independently"

That's what I found out.

The laughing Chrisisall

FREMDFIRMA

Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:10 PM

No offense, but concerning some things, Mister Hersh should keep his damn mouth shut.

Yes, exposing abuses is a worthwhile investment, but some of the information finding it's way into that mans hands as of late - if exposed, could cause a disaster so profound that it would lead to a social collapse beyond most peoples worst case scenarios.

Between this, certain other informants, and what Thomas Tamm has by now told him, with additional corroboration from two other valid sources that I am aware of, I am sincerely hoping Mr. Hersh plays this one close to the vest, cause frankly if you exposed some of this crap...

In about eleven days, every major city in america would look like post-Katrina New Orleans.

I am *not* kidding, and despite where my own sympathies lie, have been helping bury some of this crap as deep as possible in hopes of it being blessedly forgotten.

Look, bad things got done by bad people, we all know this, and we can maybe learn from the freakin mistakes without having to dredge up stuff so horrific our very social fabric would come to shreds because it's very foundations would utterly disintegrate if the truth were known.

I'm all for punishing the guilty, but the potential cost of blowing some of this stuff wide is just too goddamn high, I've mentioned in another thread, and I'll repeat it here.

Total social breakdown and your looking at not only violence and chaos, but full scale loss of utilities, power, sewage, water, either by destruction of the infrastructure, as a punitive measure, or simply as an excuse on behalf of ambitious officials seeking emergency powers, and then things go to hell damn quick, especially when the transportation infrastructure breaks down and people start starving, which'd happen damn quick in the inner cities...

And then when FEMA sends in the dirty third to start rounding folk up, considering what sparked it in the first place, it then throws credibility behind *every* conspiracy theory no matter how ridiculous and will amount to the final breach of trust that causes a civil war in the streets regardless of what anyone else wishes to call it at the time.

And in combination with starvation, disease (believe me, you've no IDEA how quick that can happen once water and sewage systems fail) and violence, within twelve months you're looking down the barrel of 21-25% casualties, concentrated primarily in the elderly, infirm and very young.

That's Seventy-Five MILLION PEOPLE.

I'm sorry folks, but that is too high a cost to pay given that there's just too many of the bastards to arrest and prosecute, who'd get off all too lightly anyways.

If this is to be handled, the only safe way to do it is to simply look the other way and pretend really hard not to notice when certain folk start having some well deserved accidents, which is only gonna happen if any chance of some of this crap coming out dies with them - it's unfair, unfortunate, and a damned ugly bit of business, but a necessary one if a potential catastrophe worse than dropping a nuke on our own soil is to be avoided.

As I have said before, there's things in this world that just the knowing of can hurt you, that's not hyperbole or rhetoric, not when despite my own sympathies I am desperately trying to help bury it good and deep, right ?

I hope like hell that Seymour has the damn sense to know what beans NOT to spill, not now, maybe not ever.

You. Do. NOT. Want. To. Know. - Ever.

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:15 PM

There is some real sense to what you say here, Frem.
Although I'll never believe enough Americans presented with the facts, even by those they trust, would take it seriously enough to make our society collapse- it would be another "Conspiracy Theory" like Iran-Contra.

The laughing Chrisisall

SIGNYM

Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:35 PM

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Look, bad things got done by bad people, we all know this, and we can maybe learn from the freakin mistakes without having to dredge up stuff so horrific our very social fabric would come to shreds because it's very foundations would utterly disintegrate if the truth were known.

I have utter faith the the American people not to care unless it's THEIR bread that's been shit on.

That's one of the weak points of Serenity. They (crew of Firefly) seem to think that if the truth is disseminated people will rise up on their hinds legs and demand change. We've been doing this kind of crap for years. DECADES. We killed millions of people in Vietnam in the "free fire" zone that we made out of the Delta.

YAWN!

We supported evey kind of torture and depravity that Somoza and Pinochet and The Shah of Iran could inflict on their societies.

SNORE!

We gave money and arms to Suharto so that he could massacre 200,000 people, and the only thing Kissinger was worried about was whether or not his fingerprints were on it or not.

Whuuuhh???

We killed about 100,000 people in Iraq, but I don't see many wringing their hands over lost lives.

Peeps like Rapo, Geezer, and Finn will find a way to deny. Most Americans really wouldn't care. Hell, look at the big yawn tha New Orleans got after Katrina! The only thing that would happen is that OTHER countries would demand accountability. If some of them (China, Australia, UK and EU) made their continuing support of our currency part of the demand for an investigation or (worse) punished us after-the-fact by dumping our currency...

THEN there would be a problem! But not before.

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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

SIGNYM

Tuesday, March 17, 2009 6:50 PM

You can find the transcript of Hersh's statment here:

www.truthout.org/031209J

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WULFENSTAR

Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:36 PM

Lets just admit it.

The only way to clean out Washington, is to be rid of all the slimy devils that have wormed their way in.

SIGNYM

Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:51 PM

I'm kinda waiting for Frem to give me a "hypothetical" that he thinks would be so horrific that it would break through the stupefaction and create total social chaos.

Mad cow in the meat?

Blacks being systematically targeted for the death penalty?

Banksters and top government officials (like Cheney) raiding the Treasury and moving all their money offhsore?

American government officials and/ or politicians dying conveniently in small plane accidents?

Battle-hardened troops deployed to the USA for crowd control?

Gays and kids being provided for WH entertainment?

American officials (like Eliot Spitzer) being spied on and blackmailed to make them stop investigating?

I mean, really... what would top THAT????

C'mon Frem: Your turn.

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