Dollhouse: Gray Hour - Echo becomes a thief and loses herself on the same day.

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ASARIAN

Sunday, March 8, 2009 8:25 PM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
And I think Dominic was once Alpha's handler, and that's why he seems so jaded and cruel towards the other dolls.

I think you might be right about this, too. Did you notice, that prior to Sierra getting her treatment, when she tells him she's got her eye on him and shouldn't take off with the money, Dominic says something like: "Sure, Echo."? That lends credence to your notion that he once was Echo's handler (and basically just calls her Echo because he finds himself in an all too familiar position). I do find him actually more cruel to Echo than to the other Dolls.

Btw, I loved how Echo retained a 'blue sky' image, when in the vault, in her wiped state, on the Parthenon job (which is itself subtle pun on the tabula rasa thingy, what with 'parthenos' meaning 'virgin' and all, in Greek).

Oh, and I also like Topher's "You need to take something" assistent. She's cute.

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"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

BYTEMITE

Sunday, March 8, 2009 8:38 PM

Well, actually, I said Alpha and not Echo, but that'd be a fun possibility too, especially the part about why he's no longer Echo's handler.

ASARIAN

Sunday, March 8, 2009 8:45 PM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Well, actually, I said Alpha and not Echo, but that'd be a fun possibility too, especially the part about why he's no longer Echo's handler.

LOL, you *did* say Alpha. Wonder why I read Echo? :)

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"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

PHOENIXROSE

Sunday, March 8, 2009 8:45 PM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
DeWitt talking about closure for agent Ballard suggests to me something happened in the past.

Yeah, he was shot

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BYTEMITE

Sunday, March 8, 2009 9:20 PM

Heh, true enough, I think that'd piss off any agent enough that they'd start pursuing the case (more) obsessively.

THESOMNAMBULIST

Sunday, March 8, 2009 11:53 PM

A very enjoyable episode.

Can I just ask, and forgive me for not reading everyones posts, but is anyone of the similar mind to me that Alpha is the FBI agent? Would that make sense?

I noticed in the previous episode how; he wiped out his attackers with extraordinary force - and I'd have to go back and watch it again- but did he not hold a similar stance over his defeated attackers in the basement to that of Alpha as Alpha did overlooking Echo back at the Dollhouse? And with blood on his hands...?

It may explain why he knows about the Dollhouse and no-one else does. Seeing that residual memories do remain in an active, it would clarify why he knows Caroline/Echo is a Doll.

Anyways - I liked this one alot and Eliza was excellent when doing the heist, right back to her Faith mode, and the drawing in the steam was a touch of genius!

As someone said earlier - Dollhouse I'll now watch on it's own merits, not necessarily because it's a Joss show.

WASHNWEAR

Monday, March 9, 2009 12:55 AM

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Originally posted by asarian:
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... Oh, and I also like Topher's "You need to take something" assistent. She's cute.

Yeah, she's pretty much that, alright. She was also - and correct me if I'm wrong - Mr. Palmer's "girlfriend" and attorney-gone-tragically-wrong on NCIS for 2-3 seasons.

It was like that when we got here!

PHOENIXROSE

Monday, March 9, 2009 1:09 AM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
is anyone of the similar mind to me that Alpha is the FBI agent? Would that make sense?

Maybe if Alpha has multiple personalities, one of which remembers the Dollhouse and knows how to hack their system, and probably how to find it, and is sending info on it to his other personality in the form of a manila envelope. Intriguing idea.
However, seeing as how the Dollhouse is obviously tracking Ballard, and would presumably know what Alpha looks like, I find it a little far-fetched. Their ultimate goal when it comes to Alpha seems to be to take him out. He's dangerous, to them and in general.
There might be a connection between the two characters, though. It could be any number of things. Maybe Alpha was at some point imprinted with a portion of Ballard. Maybe they knew each other, before Alpha was an active, and that's why Ballard has an obsession with the Dollhouse. Maybe they're brothers, only Alpha is too messed up to really remember that. Alpha is certainly a great mystery.

...Hey, has anyone else wondered where the Dollhouse assignment came from in the first place? It's clearly regarded as a joke by most of the Bureau, but someone must have gotten a whiff of something worthy of investigation, unbelievable as it might have been, and it got foisted on Ballard because... what? He was considered a joke already? Kind of has echoes of the X-files in that way.

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YINYANG

Monday, March 9, 2009 1:26 AM

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... Oh, and I also like Topher's "You need to take something" assistent. She's cute.

Yeah, she's pretty much that, alright. She was also - and correct me if I'm wrong - Mr. Palmer's "girlfriend" and attorney-gone-tragically-wrong on NCIS for 2-3 seasons.

Yes! I knew I recognized her from somewhere.

LISSA

Monday, March 9, 2009 1:49 AM

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Originally posted by out2theblack:

Except that he didn't...

Joss didn't write this one , it was a couple of chicks that he hired...

I'd like to see him take a more direct hand to the scripts , and inject some trademark snarky humor...

Um, those "chicks" he hired are a writing team Joss has worked with in the past on Angel. Also, the fact that they wrote the episode does not mean that Joss did not have a direct hand in the scripts. This is how all of Joss's shows have worked in the past. He can't write every script. Generally he gets the writing credit on about 3 or 4 episodes a season.

~lissa

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