Verse Map: White Paper Available

POSTED BY: Lemming
UPDATED: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 07:42
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ASARIAN

Tuesday, March 3, 2009 10:33 AM

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
This map in the database does not seem to mesh with the Map of the Verse, or the White Paper. The database stuff just seems to reiterate info from the show. It's also very limited.

That's what I figured (I only looked briefly at it). The database was, overall, a bit disappointing, really. No Battle of Serenity Valley dates in the historical database, for instance; and no date of birth for River. I'm still gonna take the Blu-Ray apart, though, piece by piece, as it contains some very shiny works of art. :)

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"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, March 3, 2009 10:38 AM

I did see one record in there that listed 1 May 2511 regarding BoSV. However, my familiarity with military records allows that most dates are recorded as the 1st of the month, using a 2nd of the month, or the 3rd, signifies something other than the date which the event occured. So I conjure that 1 May 2511 merely means that it happened in May of 2511.

LEMMING

Tuesday, March 3, 2009 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
I did not mean to change the Map. I meant to post in the comments of that page for the White Paper. It says it is a living document, intended to be changed and revised to correct oversights. That's from Chris B, posted there, and he's entertaining the input about Ita Moon in the comments section. I cannot post there, so I was asking if you could for me. I understand the Map is not going to be changed, that's not what I'm asking. After the White Paper has designated the locations of places like Ita Moon and the ringed world, we could just pretend the image on the Map was a side shot where the ring is invisible when in the plane of view. The White Paper, as a living document, could alter it's image to make a ringed world, I suppose - doesn't mean the Map product would need to be changed.
So, could you post for consideration of change and update, besides Ita Moon, the ringed world, plus the orbital duration of the outer 4 Suns?
I also notice they have some notes for some other data. Can you also post if they have determined locations for Kowlon Fed Base, and Kowlonshi (Kaylee's birthplace)?

Ah. I misunderstood. My bad.

Quite right, there are no contact details for directly feeding back on the white paper, though you can always email QMX. Or possibly comment via the FireflyShipWorks site where direct comment is possible.

Sure, I can forward this on to Chris B though.

Will do.

Nick

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, March 3, 2009 10:56 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Lemming:

Ah. I misunderstood. My bad.

Quite right, there are no contact details for directly feeding back on the white paper, though you can always email QMX. Or possibly comment via the FireflyShipWorks site where direct comment is possible.

Sure, I can forward this on to Chris B though.

Will do.

Nick

The comments are posted right there, at this lionk:
http://www.fireflyshipworks.com/2009/02/the-verse-in-numbers/

But as I already said, I cannot post there, so if you can, that would be fine.

LEMMING

Tuesday, March 3, 2009 10:31 PM

Unsure as to why you can't post on the firefly shipworks site?

You can link to it but not post, but posting to a board like this is allowed (must be some weird sys admin rule I assume?)

Anyway, pointed Chris over here rather than 3rd party all the points.

Nick

QMXANDY

Wednesday, March 4, 2009 6:09 AM

JewelStaiteFan -

I'm the admin over at the Ship Works. Why can't you post? We moderate the messages and I will admit to occasionally being a little slow approving them. But I've never prevented a post that wasn't spam-related.

QMXANDY

Wednesday, March 4, 2009 6:16 AM

BTW, just want to clear up the whole Ita Moon thing: According to our notes, it was not yet open for colonization and was still undergoing terraforming at the time the map was published (in The Verse Standard Calendar). There are lots (lots = thousands) of bodies in The Verse cluster not noted on the map. Most are too small to be worth noting. Some are black rocks. Some are undergoing terraforming. A few are too big to terraforming using current technology.

I believe Chris is already adding it to the next dot release of The Verse white paper.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, March 4, 2009 7:40 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by QMxAndy:
JewelStaiteFan -

I'm the admin over at the Ship Works. Why can't you post? We moderate the messages and I will admit to occasionally being a little slow approving them. But I've never prevented a post that wasn't spam-related.

Not sure why. Nothing to do with delay or approvals. My work units have many restrictions, normally due to cookies. I can work here ok, but over at shinyuniverse.com (I think it is) the cookies requirement leaves me out. For my home dial-up, this site crashes my computer and wipes the isp link, and shipworks takes longer to load than here (on my work unit, with T1 lines).
A few days ago I noticed the posts at ffsw and the time stamps progressing, but the last day or so I noticed all the timestamps are stuck on something like 1:23am or something - is something there locked up?

Thanks for making the Maps, I got a rollup (not opened yet) and a fold up (lots of wear already, doesn't stay in that little sleeve for long).
If Chris gets that data for the orbital durations of the outer Suns, we could get the info here or on the message area of ffsw instead of waiting for the new versions of the White Paper.

FYI, there is a Map of the Verse discussion thread over in the Episode forum, in case you want to trudge through that.

QMXANDY

Wednesday, March 4, 2009 2:18 PM

Ah. Okay then. I thought it might be something we were doing.

Thanks for the kind words on the map. It has been (as noted elsewhere) a labor of love for us, as all our Serenity stuff is.

And there's more to come!

:-)

ELECTRICLION

Thursday, March 5, 2009 11:21 AM

Hey, everyone. I'm in a rush, so I'll make this quick. I'm sorry for not including orbital periods of the main stars. I came up with those numbers and they're on the spreadsheet. I don't know why I didn't include them. They will be there in the next release, along with Ita Moon, and a bunch of grammar corrections.

I'm glad all of you like it. It's been fun to create. I'll get those changes posted soon.

J. Chris Bourdier

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