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Which 1 Episode Would You Pick To Win Over Verse Virgins?

POSTED BY: MrShinyVerse
UPDATED: Friday, March 6, 2009 08:41
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Tuesday, September 9, 2008 2:10 PM

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Originally posted by ILiveAtSerinity:
Actually Joss wanted to introduce The Train Job as the pilot but evil producers wouldn't let him. They said it didn't have enough content to be a good pilot.



You might have heard this before, but if you havn't, read below.

I'm sorry, I must correct this if it hasn't been already. Joss wanted Serenity(the episode) to be the pilot, but the producers thought it was too long, with too much information in one sitting.(funny I thought that was what a Pilot episode was supposed to have)

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Tuesday, September 23, 2008 10:55 PM

I was actually introduced to the 'Verse with the movie, Serenity, by my dad. I thought it worked quite well to reel me in, as my over actified imagination kept going, "now who's this?! What? Waitaminute. How'd she get there in the first place?! Wow! This is frickin' awesome!" I had to know more about these fantastic personalities, and I still remember my dad saying "..you know there's a TV show where everybody's alive again." :)) ..like the movie came before the show.., that cracks me up now, how he worded it :P
As for an introduction episode from the series..? I started with the Pilot and it worked great, but if I hadn't seen the movie first.., I'd probably pick Ariel. Good heist-style action, and a good dose of high tech sci-fi for people leery of getting on board with a western theme. Hook 'em with the tech, the humor, the characters, ..then show 'em the cows and horses later. Nothing against westerns (or cows or horses), mind you, but for people used to Star Trek and Battlestar Galactica...
And Jayne trying to remember all the doctor jargon, and failing miserably, would be enough to make anyone grin :)

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Wednesday, September 24, 2008 6:05 PM

Draginspleen, I was introduced with the movie too. :) (Although I did see the very, very end of Ariel months before).

If you're lucky it would be great to introduce people with the movie. It's excellent from the start. It instantly captivates, then becomes hilarious when we enter Serenity.

While you may not have the time for the movie, I think that's only because the worry is that a lengthy feature might bore your friends. But I reckon they'd definitely wanna keep watching the movie from start to finish. And once you get to River's kickass seen in the bar, you'll have them won over.

For an episode I'll have to go with MrShinyVerse, who started this thread. Our Mrs. Reynolds was great. It's entertaining, and like ly to win over the proposed stereotype of mates.

In the end it depends on the type of people watching. And while it would be nice to start with Serenity, you really have to consider whether it's a risk worth taking. There's evidence that Firefly newbies can lose interest in it. The movie i just a much better starting point. But hey, that was just with me, so as I said, it still depends on your mate's interests. :D

Great thread :D
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Thursday, February 26, 2009 5:13 AM

The pilot "Serenity" worked to win me over.

I showed my parents the pilot and my mother said at one point, "None of them are very likable, are they...?" I had to bite my tongue a little there. A few days later I showed them "Train Job" which my father loved (he's more of the Western buff) and my mother said, "Now they're funny and likable! Ok, I'm understanding better now."

Didn't figure "Our Mrs Reynolds" would be the best introduction in this case, taking my audience into consideration. :)

I'd like to see a tally as well, if someone has the time!

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Thursday, February 26, 2009 8:25 AM

Its got to be Ariel, without a shadow of a doubt. You are left in no doubt as to modus operandi of not just the crew as a whole but of the individual members.You are aware of the trouble that river is in and are given the only real glimpse of the alliance operatives chasing her.You see Simons skills in action and you see Jayne isnt to be trusted. And at the end you are left in no doubt who's boss. An episode full of action, tension and good story arc. I saw the ep ages ago on the UK Sci-fi network, and although I had never heard of Firefly before that and never really followed it until much later, I always remember it as being good tele.

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Thursday, February 26, 2009 4:29 PM

i would chose from shindig,janystown,pilot,or heart of gold

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Monday, March 2, 2009 5:37 PM

the pilot was great.
i also think our mrs. reynolds would work as well. that hot lil' redhead with the angelic voice won me over,and over,and :)

Saffron: But we've been wed. Aren't… we to become one flesh?
Mal: Well, no, uh… we're still two fleshes here, and… I think… that your flesh oughta… sleep somewhere else.
Saffron: I'm sorry. When we talked, I'd hoped, but I—
[She gestures with her hands, losing the sheet. Mal turns away.]
Mal: Whoa, hey! Flesh. Um… Saffron… i-it… it ain't a question of pleasing me. It's more a question of what's…
[Mal, breathing heavily, strains not to look at the naked woman.]
Mal: … um… of what's morally right.
Saffron: I do know my Bible, sir. "On the night of their betrothal, the wife shall open to the man as the furrow to the plow, and he shall work in her, in and again, till she bring him to his fall, and rest him then upon the sweat of her breast." [N]
[Cut to Mal, who is openly staring now.]
Mal: Whoa. Good Bible.


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Monday, March 2, 2009 6:20 PM

I've had very good results with Jaynestown, when the people I know can't commit to watching the pilot episode.

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Monday, March 2, 2009 7:03 PM

Imho, ya gotta go with the lowest common denominator. Give your audience the shock value of 'Mal kicking Crow through the engine', and you've gained a fan or few. Ergo, The Train Job, and go for the "whoa" crowd.

There are other episodes, such as Objects in Space, that would draw the, um, more intellectual audience, but my point is that in order to maximize common viewership, one puts one's best efforts into drawing new viewers in via shock value. Also, given my conceit regarding generally limited attention spans, TTJ gets to the quick, for instance, faster than Serenity (the pilot).

Then there's those odd statistical outliers like cozen, who became kinda interested from seeing the last 2/3 of OMR, but was sold on the show when he tried out the following episode on a whim, and was totally sucked in by Sonny's rendition of the theme song. Having said that, I wouldn't count on that tune to be a selling point for any normal peeps.





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Monday, March 2, 2009 7:10 PM

I've tried The Train Job too because it actually does have a pretty good run-down of the characters and backstory of the series in lieu of the pilot episode. But for some reason, I can never get people to stick around and watch that one.

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