Pop Goes The Pelosi
POSTED BY: Jongsstraw
UPDATED: Saturday, July 19, 2025 04:45
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I hate to interrupt the hate, but auraptor is right. The govt. of Iraq hates us, or at least feels less that passionate about our relationship, in particular, they would like our guys to leave.
This is because we set up a democracy, and they voted some people into office. Talibani, who is actually Taliban, it's not a linguistic coincidence, and Maliki, who is one Sadr's people. This isn't the govt. we might've wanted. We supported moderates that we thought would be better. But ultimately, we weren't the Iraqis, and it wasn't up to us to decide what they wanted. They wanted us gone, about 80% of Iraqis do, a number increasing by about 10% a year, and so they voted for the guys who they thought would get rid of us.
If we really want moderates to win in Iraq, the best thing to do is to let the democracy we set up work, step back, get out of their country, open up trade, start buying their oil, and start selling them ipods.
As for the above comment Jongstraw is right, Saddam Hussein had the weapons the Rummy sold him (that's how we knew. If we hadn't known, we would have made up a better story, because that was a terrible reason to go to war.) And he wasn't a total moron, given the UN resolution, he couldn't be cause with them, so he sold them to someone, probably some terrorist group, maybe one of the ones working for us right now in afghanistan. Our president was a moron in thinking that he would still have some of these agents, there was a lot of talk of sarin nerve gas, which has a very short shelf life, sold to Iraq in 1982, used against Iran, and probably the kurds, suspected of collaborating with Iran, it wouldn't have been very useful 20 years later.
But all of this is kicking a very dead horse.
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"Obama, to me, sounds like he's still campaigning."
He has to.
You may not remember even thought it was mere weeks ago, but he disappeared for 3 weeks or so, trying to work out a plan. He was ready to iron out differences and create a bipartisan effort. But the repubicans were against the bill before they even saw it, and played politics rather than try to help the country. Along with the right-wing lapdog MSM they were spreading lies non-stop about the bill, what was in it, and who was behind it. That's ALL you heard and saw, night and day, for weeks. (Which, btw, you personally ate up with fork and spoon and shovel - as evidenced by the things you've posted which come from right-wing country through MSM; and which are demonstrably untrue.)
He had to go back to campaign mode, and will probably be in that mode until he sees he no longer has to counter partisan politics.
BTW I have Dubya's first speech on my computer. Look it up. It's lame, lame, lame. 
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
I want to know what drug Pelosi was on last night that caused her to spring up and down 61 times like a prairie dog in heat. Man, she was all pumped and primed and determined to be the first one up each time, even getting a bit of a head start each time before Obama would finished his sentence.
I tuned in and saw the camera angle with her right over BO's shoulder and gasped - AH! I can't watch this! I'll have to catch the transcript.
I think she wants desperately to help, be of value, but she's a drag instead. She will be one of the main reasons the (male majority) Reps won't come together with Obama - she has been gifted with a large supply anti-charisma and people are simple at every level.
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Rue, although I usually disagree with you, most of the time I can at least understand you. But this is new for even you: Right-Wing mainstream media??? What exactly is that? Is it :
NY Times............not
Washington Post.....not
Boston Globe........not
LA Times............not
San Francisco Chronicle...not
Atlanta Journal....not
or
NBC.....not
ABC......not
CBS......not
MSNBC...not
CNN.....not
PBS.....not
So what remains as Right-Wing Mainstream Media? Must be Fox News on TV, and Rush on radio. Those 2 little entities against the muscle and wealth of all of the above? Puuullleeeeeze, gimme a break!
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Quote:... 'cause the economy's on f*cking FIRE! dontcha know! And that 3.6 billion dollars in loot...er, I mean bonuses ... that Merril executives helped themselves to before they got taken over?
And America never fell from greatness...
THAT'S what made America great!!!!! And clearly we're still right on-target with that!
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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.
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The only sensible thing said in the whole thread and it comes out of Rappys mouth, ain't that a hoot.
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Government is not the solution to our problems. Government IS the problem.
Until everyone comes to understand that simple fact, we're doomed.
Of course, he follows up by proudly displaying what he REALLY meant was...
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Non-GOP Government is not the solution to our problems. Anyone elses Government IS the problem.
Rappy, you can't flame "Government" and shill for the GOP at the same time, it looks ridiculous, and in case ya didn't notice, they're Government too!
That's like shilling for an Anarchist King, it makes no sense.
All that said, NOBODY likes Pelosi, there's a bull market in dartboards there, anyone wants to go free enterprise and tap it - course they'd prolly whine that such was a terrorist threat...
*eyeroll*
-F
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Frem,
rofl
lol
and well said on all points.
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Jonggstraw: The media NEVER represents "the left". It's like DT said in the other thread: you could have 10,000 people marching against the war and "the media" would say "Marchers were on both sides of the question" and then show you six people from each side. That's why you never heard from the MSM about the dozens of antiCAFTA peeps who were gassed and clubbed in Miami or the Oakland antiwar dockworkers who were beaten.
Quote:www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/04/09/ED8L101F5U.DTL
At the start of the war in Iraq, hundreds of protesters demonstrated on the Oakland docks, and longshoremen honored their picket lines. Without warning, police in riot gear opened fire with so-called less-than-lethal weapons, shooting protesters and longshoremen alike with wooden dowels, rubber bullets, pellet bags, concussion grenades and tear gas. A U.N. Human Rights Commission investigator characterized the Oakland police attack as "the most violent" against anti-war protesters in the United States.
MSM is nothing if not corporatist. They're all about the money. The LAST thing they want you doing is peeping under their skirts.
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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.
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Quote:I'm truly sorry that you are such an idiot. Really.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
We didn't sanction torture, we dealt w/ an enemy which has no nation, no uniform, and signs no treaty.
"Thanks." -Hero, 2009
The laughing Chrisisall
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Chris,
Your ignorance of the state of the world isn't going to change by you acting childish and calling me names.
I'm sorry, that you think it will, but it simply won't.
Ever.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people ARE.
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