What kind of logic is FOX using?

POSTED BY: fishman
UPDATED: Thursday, February 26, 2009 02:59
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FISHMAN

Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:10 AM

My apologies- I've been a viewer, not a poster, since Firefly was first on TV, went to every Serenity pre-screening- in Boston and then Providence, RI, and have really followed everything Joss has done ("Steve's Song"?) since, and can't understand why they would ignore an existing fan base that has sold millions of copies of a story that remains untold in Firefly to begin a new one in Dollhouse. Not that I'm complaining about Dollhouse- but my question is, when FOX sold the rights to Universal to produce Serenity, does that mean it's now up to Universal to capitalize on the fanbase that exists supporting Firefly? Or could FOX continue the story, if they chose to? And if they could, what kind of logic are they using to start a whole new universe, when one already exists with plenty of people in it?

RALLEM

Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:23 AM

That is a question we've been pondering for quite some time.

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JOSSISAGOD

Tuesday, February 24, 2009 2:37 AM

Technically, Fox still owns the rights to Firefly, they aren't really eager to let that go, even though they aren't making more. It might be up to Universal to collect on the fanbase now, but apparently Serenity didn't do as well as the suits at Universal had hoped, so, Fox is cashing in on the half-series they produced, because they don't want to let the rights to that go. Universal is on the fence about Serenity, because it didn't make the money they hoped for.
In short, Fox could continue the story of Firefly, if they chose to, but they now have other things going, so that's doubtful. Only Joss would know what kind of logic to use to bring back Firefly, as it once was, so I don't think anyone really knows what's going to happen in The 'verse.

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BYTEMITE

Tuesday, February 24, 2009 3:41 AM

As I understand it, they only sold Universal the MOVIE RIGHTS.

Kind of like how when an author or their publisher negotiates movie rights with a studio, they still own the original book and franchise.

PHYRELIGHT

Tuesday, February 24, 2009 4:32 AM

Quote:
What kind of logic is FOX using?

Quick answer: none.

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, February 24, 2009 7:26 AM

Who really expects Fox to admit they were WRONG? Restarting a series that they cancelled to begin with would be tantamount to saying WE ARE STUPID.

SHINYGOODGUY

Tuesday, February 24, 2009 8:07 AM

Fishman you have asked the $64 Billion question (I had to adjust from million due to inflation).

Here's my theory (with this and a quarter you can buy a bag o' chips):

Fox sells the movie rights to Universal and crosses their fingers that it makes money. Yes, bear with me, you heard right. Fox had to be hoping that it would make truckloads of cashey-money because then it would justify re-lighting the Firefly series whereby - wait for it - they can then make truckloads of money continuing the series with DVD sales (that made them a ton of cash up until today).

They also are holding onto their TV rights because if, for example, Universal decides to buy those rights they can back up several Brinks trucks. I believe I read somewhere that Fox has the rights until either 2010 or 2012. Also it is my guess that they don't want to eat and won't let anyone else grab a bite of the pie. But mainly I think it's like JewelStaiteFan said - they don't want to look foolish (actually JSF used STUPID).

Fox stupid, naaahhh. They are as cunning as a FOX. No wait, if they made more FF they would make a ton of cash - regardless. They would make STOOPID stacks of cashey-money. No...well...uh, I choose my first thought, like they say in my neighborhood - Yo, that's WACK!

It's sad really.

SGG

Tawabawho?

RALLEM

Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:51 AM

I think we can forget about Firefly ever coming back as a series in the form it was before, because Joss said so in an interview at an Australian convention. Joss said the elements which made the television series work so well are now gone and it would be next to impossible, so he is more focused on the movies.

http://www.swyzzlestyx.com/index.html

ZZETTA13

Tuesday, February 24, 2009 1:22 PM

First of all you can throw “logic” out the window!

If this were a card game you can trump “logic” with greed, power and having no balls. F*>< is all about money ( forget anything about art and just plain good entertainment) Yet it is funny if that no one at that network would just come forth and admit that there’s a ton of profit to being made and with a strait to dvd FF or continuation of the BDS there‘s a load of $$$ just on the horizon. Course no one at the network has the guts to admit that.

Universal helped the sale Firefly with it’s investment in making the movie Serenity. At first F*>< laughed at Uni because Serenity did so poorly at the BO ( I am a shameful browncoat for not seeing both at the start) but now eyebrows are lifting and we’ve reach the “ Holy smokes, this could make some bread” phase. That doesn’t mean that either company are willing to admit to mistakes. It only means that FF and Serenity are not dead and still making money. F*>< with their greed also brought Uni to the courts with the “Watchman” movie coming out. Do the research and you’ll see the truth.

The fans (and browncoats) are what keep the FF franchise alive. We refuse to admit defeat. A lesser show would have fell into the ditches long ago but not FF. There is hope still. Does F*>< HATE the browncoats? I think so. We are that ever reminder that they F***ED up ( sorry bout that I usually don’t post like that) Anyway………..

Keep the faith, stay alive and keep holding the line, Z

FISHMAN

Tuesday, February 24, 2009 9:57 PM

Ok, so FOX (I think it's hilarious, by the way, that no one can say it) still has the rights, and technically COULD resurrect the series, but they won't because of pride? How much money was involved with Family Guy for them to swallow their pride and bring that back? Anyway, I guess these conversations are all inconsequential, as a very wise man once said, "You can't always get what you want."
I'm hoping for another strike so we can get Dr. Horribles' Sing along blog Part 2!

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