Enterprise Cliffhanger
POSTED BY: CrevanReaver
UPDATED: Tuesday, June 1, 2004 03:28
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"Nazis. I really hate those guys."
given: America/The Allies still have San Francisco.
given: Archer has mysteriously arrived in Nazi/Axis territory by a means unknown.
In theory, if the Deathstar (sorry, I mean "Xindi weapon") caused a pesky 'temporal rift,' why was he sent to Earth [why not open space?] and why did he land on... land? 3/4ths of the planet is water, yeah? He's got a 75% chance of landing in the drink.
Time travel and Nazis. Dang. Could it be more contrived? 5000 years of recorded history and they have to pick WW2.
To boldly go where someone else has already boldly gone. But more so.
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The episode smells of corporate committee writing for at least the last 10 minutes.
I had hopes for an honest finale, but Paramount Inc. never fails to let us down.
How can all these networks be so full of the clueless?
Let Trek Die a Clean Death
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I like this series, and I liked the cliffhanger. I've liked this show from the beginning. It's interesting to see how humans started into space (at least in the Trek world).
Hmmmm...then again, maybe I just like ogling Trip without his shirt on. Vulcan nuero-pressure anyone? 
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I like the idea behind the series, I forgave some of the weaker plot in season one due to you gotta have time to do some character / plot developement.
But with the exception of maybe half of this last season, the writing has been lackluster.
I like some story arcs which go 3-5 eps
I like darker plot lines
I like having characters who you don't know what they might do next.
If they could do these things with DS9, why not E ?
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Originally posted by palindrome:
In theory, if the Deathstar (sorry, I mean "Xindi weapon") caused a pesky 'temporal rift,' why was he sent to Earth [why not open space?] and why did he land on... land? 3/4ths of the planet is water, yeah? He's got a 75% chance of landing in the drink.
I think Daniels or his 31st century friends might have a hand in that, since if he wound up in the hands of the Nazis he might have a chance to figure out why that Nazien is there.
Oh yea and Temporal Rifts can send an object anywhere. Remember the Enterprise-C was sent across light year in addition to across time.
WWII makes sense since anyone trying to alter the future of space travel would start with WWII since the 1st large-scale rockets were used and the 1st Nuclear weapons were built. Since rockets launched the 1st Earth built Warp-Ship in to space and nuclear reactors run Impulse Engines it makes sense WWII two works.
But I think I know exactly why the Timeline was so altered, it was Doctor McCoy going though The Guardian of Forever! They are now in that Timeline where the US entry in to WWII was delayed by that Social Worker.
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This show was doomed from its initial concept. To stupidly go back to before the beginning and screw up every bit of canon established by all other Trek series. We know the Federation happens, and to go back and tell the tale of how it almost didn't could have been told in one episode of any other Trek series. From the design of the ship to the first ten minutes of the very first episode (It was that bad, couldn't stand any more drek) this show was a mistake. And people got paid for this disaster, on purpose. Cancel this show or the dog gets it!
Besides, Firefly did in less than one season what these others could not do in seven!
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HAHAHAHahahaha ... let me get this straight.
Fanboy: Oh Mr. Braga? Will you give me a great ending to your year long Xindi arc story? Like those Joss Whedon shows I love...
Braga: (in Marvel comic badguy voice) NO Fanboy scum! You will be sodomized by me... with a cliffhanger ending! Now bend over.
Give me a big fat frellin' kiss on the trekkie lips. Can't believe that after a year long arc that ENT had a cliffhanger ending... with Nazis! HAHAHA! Give me strength. Go and ask your english teacher why this isn't how you write a story, especially a whole arc! Fucking amazing.
Worst ending ever.
It's a complete fucking of the show .. yet again. How can they completely sabotage the story? I know, let's just blow away any drama or excitement we developed over the last year, oh and we failed to do that btw, and betray the audience who stuck with us. Wha?
I mean, you know ENT is laughing at you people right? You know that Braga and Berman do this because of thier utter contempt for the Trek audience right? They took the show and didn't even bother to read the scripts all the way through. Who is the story editor on this show? Oh yea, there isn't one. Just Braga.
Now, since Braga and Berman have been shit on by all the Trekkies out there do you wanna bet this horrifically terrible ending was a 'fuck you'?
It was.
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The alien in Germany isn't a Reman. Remans have greenish-tinged translucent skin and yellow eyes; this guy had grey, pasty skin and red eyes. Also; cheek spikes. Odds are he's some new race (like the Suliban or Xindi).
That Romulans are involved in the Temporal War isn't too far-fetched; wide-spread speculation says that Silik's shadowy advisor is a Romulan.
And Hoshi's linguistic skills were explained (somewhat unclearly, I'll admit) in the first few episodes: she's a savant. Y'know, like those child prodigies that can play Beethoven on their fifth birthday. It's a documented phenomenon; some people's brains just "take" to different things (music, mathematics [see: Tam, River], visual arts, dance, and, in Hoshi's case, languages). The "downside" is that a savant is usually grossly deficient in some other aspect. The concert musician is autistic, the dancer can't walk straight, the mathematician is a stutterer. Hoshi is kinda a coward --almost to the point of phobia. I'll admit to wishing that character quirk had been played up beyond a little screaming in an early ep and a pep-talk from T'Pol, but them's the breaks.
Quote:Um, how?
Originally posted by dragonwine:
This show was doomed from its initial concept. To stupidly go back to before the beginning and screw up every bit of canon established by all other Trek series.
Vulcans were Earth's first contact. Check (as seen in First Contact).
Zefram Cochrane lived long enough to become a citizen of Alpha Centauri before he "died" (as per TOS' comment that Cochrane was "from Alpha Centauri"). Check.
Andorians were a martial race, who were significant enough to play a part in the founding of the Federation. Check.
If anything, Enterprise is adding to the established canon, demonstrating just why getting the Vulcans and Andorians to work together is such a Big Deal.
As I stated elsewhere, the "Ferengi Kerfuffle" is a non-issue; Archer & crew never learned the identities of the raiders. Until Picard's Enterprise actually meets them face-to-face, they will remain "unknown big-eared aliens."
Quote:It's not about the Federation, it's about humanity, and how we evolve from the real, flawed people on Archer's crew into the enlightened paragons of Roddenberry's vision.
We know the Federation happens, and to go back and tell the tale of how it almost didn't could have been told in one episode of any other Trek series.
It's about dealing with bigotry and racism (humans dislike Vulcans, Vulcans distrust humans and Andorians, Andorians hate Vulcans, Xindi hate humans, humans hate Xindi, etc), and how they must be overcome in order to improve ourselves. The question isn't "can we blow up the bad guys?" it's "should we risk blowing up our future allies?"
More than that, Enterprise is about normal people, who happen to be thrown into situations beyond anything they were expecting or prepared for. They are tested, and become greater heroes for it.
Quote:Ah, well then, if the first ten minutes of the first show didn't make you go "OH MY F*&KING GAWD, THIS IS THE BESTEST SHOW EVAR!!!111!!one!!1" then it must suck. My mistake.
From the design of the ship to the first ten minutes of the very first episode (It was that bad, couldn't stand any more drek)
Quote:Yes, and end the entire franchise (no TV series, no movie, the books, great as they are, can't keep the entire property afloat). Free up one more hour for Sureality TV.
this show was a mistake. And people got paid for this disaster, on purpose. Cancel this show or the dog gets it!
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Well said, CyberSnark! 
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If you bought into Enterprise then I have some property, and a watch, and a bridge to sell. If I want a good story, or good acting..you know something other than cardboard....I won't turn on Ent, and as for "Sureality" tv, well I just turn the tv off.
In any case, bottom line, Enterprise did indeed suck from scene one to cliffhanger. The team of BnB just serve up the trash weekly and still get paid. Sad little people on a sad little hill.
Thank you, and goodnight!
PS...could have sworn this was the firefly forum, not the drek zone.
It's a nothing part til you don't got one, then you have to go to ebay.....aaaaagh!
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