Anusol for the monkey.......
POSTED BY: AURaptor
UPDATED: Friday, February 20, 2009 23:38
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Chris -
You're not even in the same ball park. Quit while you're too far behind.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people WILL understand.
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"Not enough majority to override the Dems."
Override WHERE Rap ? In committees that were RUN by repubicans ? In committees with repubican majorities ? In the House and Senate that both had repubican majorities ? Or do you mean enough to override a presidential veto (and why WOULD he veto his own proposal ?)
WHERE Rap ? At what step ? Be specific.
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Quote:Because, Rue, math doesn't count here, a majority doesn't have the majority simply because they have the majority.
Originally posted by rue:
"There were enough Democrats to stall the process."
And HOW did they do that, again ? When the repubican committees could have simply voted their majorities and moved it forward
Trust the RAPper.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall
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Quote:You missed the point. Again. Yeah, this is gettin' old.
Originally posted by AURaptor:
You're not even in the same ball park. Quit while you're too far behind.
Later.
"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall
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Rapo. the article that you cite merely says -without evidence
Quote:What SHOULD be known by the writer, the majority party chairs all of the committees and subcommittees, and each committee is structured to give the majority party the majority vote Which, in the time-span you were referring to, was the Republican Party. So I dug a little deeper, trying to figure out how a single minority party (Dem) Representative, Barney Frank, could have taken the whole Republican-dominated House Financial Services Committee committee hostage.
The Democrats killed this measure in Committee preventing the full Senate Vote.
And the answer is- He couldn't. There is no filibuster in the House. And that doesn't explain what did- or, more accurately, what didn't - happen in the Senate. The best article I could find on the actual mechanics of various bills introdcued into either the House or Senate to rein in Fannie/Freddie is this:
Republican Congress Talked About Financial Reform, But Did Nothing
http://uspolitics.about.com/b/2008/09/18/republican-congress-talked-ab
out-financial-reform-but-did-nothing.htm
Because whatever right-whiners say about Fannie and Freddie, in actual fact it was NOT a Republican priority. Certainly not enough to get any proposals out of the endless swirl that they seemed to have been caught in (Republican) committees.
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Quote:
Originally posted by rue:
"Not enough majority to override the Dems."
Override WHERE Rap ? In committees that were RUN by repubicans ? In committees with repubican majorities ? In the House and Senate that both had repubican majorities ? Or do you mean enough to override a presidential veto (and why WOULD he veto his own proposal ?)
WHERE Rap ? At what step ? Be specific.
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If it says there weren't enough votes to make it out of committe, what the hell do you think ?
Make it out of committe. 3rd time I've had to say this. And the LAST time.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
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Quote:Since the majority party has the majority vote in each committee, it means there weren't enough REPUBLICANS willing to vote it out of committee.
If it says there weren't enough votes to make it out of committe, what the hell do you think ?
ETA: BTW- Oxley (R) was chair of the committee. But I fully expect you to "forget" this fact and be back to the same-old-same-old by tomorrow. This reminds me of our discussion on Iraq WMD. You said that old UN resolutions justified our invasion, and I had to keep pointing out that the LAST UN resolution... the only one that counts... did no such thing. And then we went into this long discussion of whether UN resolutions superseded each other, which they do. Apparently that fact didn't stick either, since you're back to the same-old. Also, the whole "economy on fire" fiasco (from your viewpoint).
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Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
it means there weren't enough REPUBLICANS willing to vote it out of committee.

SIGNY NAILS IT DOWN FOR RAP!
who will poo-poo it to save face
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The laughing Chrisisall
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WOW!!
Cool video!
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Well, now that we're past having to set Rap straight, maybe we can get on to more productive discussion?
I kinds like Frem's thought. Also, Sarge's view that regulations should be used to prevent fraud. And tossing in a third idea: We're in deep doo doo. There are not many good options. In line with "pushing where we want to push"... where should we go from here?
What do you support? What do you disagree with?
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