Help! My pc crashed

POSTED BY: hughff
UPDATED: Thursday, February 19, 2009 15:57
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HUGHFF

Wednesday, February 18, 2009 8:57 AM

I've got the original drive working again - thanks for the help. I think it's time I bought an upgrade anyway.

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FILLYGIRL

Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:28 PM

I work in IT, I have for 25 years, you could still have a worm or a virus. Take it to an expert, let him clean it and reboot. I don't have to tell you, if you miss the virus/worm all the work you do is for nothing.
My bro had this and it cost $100 to clean it up and he saved all the data too. Good luck!

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RALLEM

Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:38 PM

You should definitely take your computer to an IT specialist to clean your computer.

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JACKCOLT

Wednesday, February 18, 2009 8:26 PM

Sigh... you'd really be better off taking something like this to a real tech forum. I'm afraid you are getting a lot of "bad" advice here (no offense to you people - you are trying to help and that is good)

First off, the blue screen with a lot of text on it is called a Blue Screen of Death. It contains VITAL information about what happened. For some reason Microsoft thinks it's a brilliant idea to automatically restart when it occurs. First thing you want to do is disable that(control panel -> system -> advanced -> startup and recovery -> uncheck the automatic restart box. If you can't boot windows, press F8 during POST) should let you disable it.

People talk about virus & worms... yeah, it might be the case, but it's unlikely. Software corruption caused by faulty hardware is much more likely to be the cause. It can of course also be caused by your average windows "fuck-up" which happens for numerous reason(data not properly saved, botched updates, faulty device drivers and so on)

You said there were no partitions? Then it can be corruption in your File Table on the Hard drive. That can be caused by faulty hard drive, motherboard and RAM or windows error. You've said you've reinstalled it works so far -> That leads me to believe it's a windows related error. Unless it fails again within some time(talking about days here) there is no reason to believe it's a hardware error. If it does the exact same thing, it's definately a hardware error, and if it does some other thing that is fatal it is also likely to be a hardware error (faulty RAM and/or Motherboard can be VERY random errors)

Now, if the file tables has indeed been deleted, then there is no way a virus can be executed. Further more you must have had to format it, while will result in a virus/worm to be gone. Thus absolutely no reason to pay an expert money to run a simple virus scan for you.

So in conclusion, till nothing else happens you can assume it was a software error which is more than often caused by something else than a virus/worm (I've hard my computer randomly reboot on me, which means no blue screen to go on from. Turns out it was a botched .NET framework update)

Now for debunking some of the advice you've gotten:

Get a Mac: Not a solution. Besides, what do you want with a machine that can't do anything? :P

Install SATA Drivers : Shouldn't be a problem if you configure your motherboard to NOT use AHCI. Definately not the cause of your problems.

Virus/Worms: Okay, yes, it can be the cause of it. In my opinion it's unlikely, but not impossible. Either way, by having to format your computer and by it appearing to have it's file table, you definately don't have any virus/worm on your computer.

Finally if it happens again, you can take it to a specialist so he can run tests on your hardware with special equipment. You could also do some memory tests yourself, but they take a long time and aren't always as precise as a specialists equipment.

Finally this wasn't to offend anyone on their advice. This is of course all my opinion based on my knowledge and experience. Also, this is probably full of errors along with missing words, but I'm too lazy to proof read it ;)

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:55 AM

General rule of thumb summary: If you have microshaft operating system, you have faulty software. Whether it is detected or obvious, that depends on the situation or application.
When errors occur while using a microshaft operating system, NEVER assume you have a hardware problem.

CITIZEN

Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
General rule of thumb summary: If you have microshaft operating system, you have faulty software. Whether it is detected or obvious, that depends on the situation or application.
When errors occur while using a microshaft operating system, NEVER assume you have a hardware problem.

Yeah, the operating system for instance. But most MS errors often track back to a hardware failure somewhere along the line, it's just that often they're caused, or exasperated by the piece of shit non-fault tolerant OS.

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RALLEM

Thursday, February 19, 2009 1:22 PM

I worked at Dartmouth College where the vast majority of personal computers were Macs, and they are ok, but they are in my opinion over priced and do they crash from time to time like a PC. The reason PCs receive a bad reputation besides Microsoft releasing product too early, is that PCs are the vast majority of computers in the public and for that reason among others related most virus and worm writers target their malicious code towards them.

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CITIZEN

Thursday, February 19, 2009 3:57 PM

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Originally posted by rallem:
I worked at Dartmouth College where the vast majority of personal computers were Macs, and they are ok, but they are in my opinion over priced and do they crash from time to time like a PC. The reason PCs receive a bad reputation besides Microsoft releasing product too early, is that PCs are the vast majority of computers in the public and for that reason among others related most virus and worm writers target their malicious code towards them.

There is that. Plus Apple dictates what hardware, drivers and to some degree user software can be used on a Mac, meaning the OS developers can eliminate conflicts long before the platform is released. PC platforms can be constructed from an infinite combination of hardware, drivers and software, making any PC OS harder to tune.

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