Would a New Firefly/Serenity Work With Only Seven Crew-Members?

POSTED BY: Schism
UPDATED: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 16:40
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PENNAUSAMIKE

Tuesday, February 17, 2009 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by rallem:
Nobody ever said that Serenity was a nuclear ship, and that is just your lack of imagination which labels it so. I honestly think that Serenity probably runs on Hydrogen Anti-Matter...

Its not my lack of imagination, but my interpretation of my licensed Serenity blueprints, that leads me to believe that Serenity is nuclear powered.
But that's not what the thread is about.
You are trying to undermine my reasoning

Quote:
"your lack of imagination"

on the point on whether the crew dynamic is better with or without Wash. I'll accept that some folks prefer the darker turn in storytelling of killing characters, but I stand by my assertion that in an already unreal world, better storytelling is more important than audience manipulation.

A discussion of the nuts and bolts of the reality of Firefly/Serenity tech is a whole 'nother thread topic. I only mentioned it as an example/point as to why keeping Wash in the crew dynamic (7 vs. 9) was a reasonable thing within the reality of the 'verse.

And hydrogen anti-matter...were'd THAT come from?
Neither the dialog, production notes nor the officially released info alludes in any way to that.

RALLEM

Tuesday, February 17, 2009 11:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by pennausamike:
Quote:
Originally posted by rallem:
Nobody ever said that Serenity was a nuclear ship, and that is just your lack of imagination which labels it so. I honestly think that Serenity probably runs on Hydrogen Anti-Matter...

Its not my lack of imagination, but my interpretation of my licensed Serenity blueprints, that leads me to believe that Serenity is nuclear powered.
But that's not what the thread is about.
You are trying to undermine my reasoning
Quote:
"your lack of imagination"
on the point on whether the crew dynamic is better with or without Wash. I'll accept that some folks prefer the darker turn in storytelling of killing characters, but I stand by my assertion that in an already unreal world, better storytelling is more important than audience manipulation.

A discussion of the nuts and bolts of the reality of Firefly/Serenity tech is a whole 'nother thread topic. I only mentioned it as an example/point as to why keeping Wash in the crew dynamic (7 vs. 9) was a reasonable thing within the reality of the 'verse.

And hydrogen anti-matter...were'd THAT come from?
Neither the dialog, production notes nor the officially released info alludes in any way to that.

You're right and I apologize for my confrontational stance earlier.

"Mid-bulk Transport. Standard radian accelerator core class code 03-K64, Firefly.

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SCHISM

Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:33 AM

Neat.
Yeah, this was all getting rather confrontational.
Now that we're all friends again, we can get back to concentrating on the fact that you're all soulless dorks for wanting to bring Wash back from the dead!

;p

BYTEMITE

Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:45 AM

I have no depth to speak of, meaningful poignant dark turns in storytelling just roll over my back like passing thunderstorms.

Let's bring back Wash! :D

(Seriously, the dude is awesome. Bring him back, pretty please, and to heck with random killing off of characters as a dark story-telling mechanism)

RALLEM

Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:46 AM

I'm not a soulless dork who wants to bring back Wash, and am only a soulless dork who thinks his character will need to be replaced with a minor modifiaction to another member already in the crew like Jayne to keep up the dynamic of the crew.

http://www.swyzzlestyx.com/index.html

PENNAUSAMIKE

Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:09 AM

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You're right and I apologize for my confrontational stance earlier.

The Browncoat community continues to impress me with the quality of folk this fandom attracts. I'd likewise apologize for any piss-y-ness in my response.

At some point these things come down to taste.
I feel betrayed by authors who kill characters for effect.
Some folks enjoy the storylines that grow out of those losses. While I understand that, I feel the original premise of the show, (the loss by the Independents to the Alliance), is enough loss and challenge to overcome for our plucky band of good-guy criminals.

Now, where was that "souless dork" post...:-)

PENNAUSAMIKE

Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:17 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Schism:
...we can get back to concentrating on the fact that you're all soulless dorks for wanting to bring Wash back from the dead!

;p

I beg to differ!
I'll admit to "geek" and my belief in my having a soul is the whole reason I can't sing along to, "I'm on a highway to hell", or "running with the devil".
But, it's your thread (shrug);
I guess you can clasify those who disagree any way you like.

Just remember, tho', Star Trek IV was the best fun Trek movie ever; and it wouldn't have happened if they hadn't brought back Spock.

Just sayin'...

GORRAMITGIRL

Wednesday, February 18, 2009 1:41 AM

I think a movie could be made to work.

Whether or not I want it to happen though, I'm not sure.

I know that as a writer currently exploring the idea of a Post-Miranda world for the crew, the idea of how to bring in a new character and how it would affect the crew is an interesting thing. I've seen other writers do it and it's always interesting to see how they go about making it work in regards to how they view the Firefly/Serenity 'Verse.

Usually, when a character dies, I may grieve a bit, but I eventually accept it and get over it. In my other fandoms, where other fans would be wailing over the loss of so-and-so, I would be okay with it.

I never had a problem until Serenity when Wash was killed. THEN I found it incredibly difficult to write fic with him dead. And I still do, to an extent.

But I wouldn't want him brought back in another movie, simply because if he was, I honestly doubt that Joss would keep him the same Wash that I knew and loved.

GG

"We either make ourselves miserable, or we make ourselves strong. The amount of work is the same."

- Carlos Casteneda

STINKBUG

Wednesday, February 18, 2009 6:01 AM

This is my first post.

I agree with other posters that they would need to hire a pilot. I'm sure River could handle the job when her mind is clear, but I don't think she would ever be completely stable. Also, it makes more sense to take advantage of River's abilities as a reader and a fighter on jobs rather than serving as the getaway driver.

I think Inara could serve as the character providing a moral viewpoint if she chose to remain on Serenity. She did this well in the past. I think they would have to add another character if Inara chose to go back to the training house or leave her profession and start a relationship with Mal. In the movie Serenity, the crew's situation seemed to have become more desperate. The ship was falling apart and no one had been paid in quite some time. Mal would have to take on a new tenant for Inara's old shuttle just for the coin. The directions that character could take are endless.

VERASAMUELS

Wednesday, February 18, 2009 12:46 PM

I'd like to see an Oriental on the crew. Maybe a female Buddhist monk? She could have handy martial arts skills as well [GGG].

Pilot - a different ethnicity. I suggest Maori, bring another flavour on board.

Cliff Curtis [Whale Rider], Lawrence Makaori [Lord of the Rings] or Temuera Morrison [Star Wars - Jango Fett] are all recommended :-).

Devout Keeper of Jayne's Lunchbox

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