The Populist Party

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WULFENSTAR

Tuesday, February 17, 2009 6:30 PM

http://www.populistamerica.com/a_populist_america

So what do you guys think?

THEGHOSTOFCHRISISALL

Tuesday, February 17, 2009 6:33 PM

It's everything I want in a government.

The popular Chrisisall

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, February 17, 2009 6:44 PM

The problems for populist parties around the world is many turn out to be fakes
the just mix up stuff on abortion, gun control, gayness etc and tell people all these lovely stories they like listening to

THEY TELL YOU WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR

NO WHAT YOU NEED TO HEAR

for example at one time it migh have been 'popular' to ignore the rise of fascism in Germany/Japan and do nothing about Europe, for example at one time it might have been 'popular' to make black people eat in other diners

Once a country goes through big social change, the populists often look like tricksters

KWICKO

Tuesday, February 17, 2009 6:55 PM

It's *MOST* of the things I want in a government. Problem is, how do you make it work?

From the website:

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In a Populist America, social issues will be decided by you, your family and your neighbors - in your community only. You'll always have the ability to vote with your feet, and move to areas not affected by laws you don't agree with.

We cannot have freedom, peace, and prosperity when the Federal government is telling every American school what to do; when the Federal government is forcing mandates and laws down the throats of state and local governments; and when the Federal government directly taxes every American only to use that money for the expansion of power.

Sounds very... populist, doesn't it? Who DOESN'T want those things? The problems I see right there are the following:

1) Show me a section of the country right now where you CAN'T "vote with your feet" and move to a different area of the country.

2) You don't want the FEDERAL government ramming laws down your throat - but it's okay for local and state laws to be rammed down your throat, apparently.

So it all SOUNDS nice, but it doesn't really hold much water when you start throwing hypothetical real-world problems at it.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

SERGEANTX

Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:09 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
1) Show me a section of the country right now where you CAN'T "vote with your feet" and move to a different area of the country.

When an issue is decided at the federal level, all of them. The point seems to be to localize the issues so such selective participation is possible. That's entirely doable for a good many issues.

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2) You don't want the FEDERAL government ramming laws down your throat - but it's okay for local and state laws to be rammed down your throat, apparently.

If ramming's going to happen, it's better to have it decentralized. Draconian social agendas are less successful when people can simply leave. When a state or local government sees their tax-base evaporating, it tends to get their attention.

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So it all SOUNDS nice, but it doesn't really hold much water when you start throwing hypothetical real-world problems at it.

Such an approach doesn't work for everything. But it would be nice to reverse the trend and let people decide for themselves when possible.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

HERO

Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:19 PM

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Originally posted by TheGhostOfChrisisall:
It's everything I want in a government.

Its everything I want you to have in a party...you can organize, campaign, and have absolutely no chance of achieving power.

"Take that, windmillisall!"

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you"- Chrisisall, 2009.

WULFENSTAR

Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:32 PM

Um, wasnt that the point? That no matter what, the government would never get large enough to have absolute power?

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, February 17, 2009 7:57 PM

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Um, wasnt that the point? That no matter what, the government would never get large enough to have absolute power?

Peeps like Hero WANT Big Gov't to have BIG power. How else do you maintain order?

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The not-ghost Chrisisall

HERO

Wednesday, February 18, 2009 2:26 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Peeps like Hero WANT Big Gov't to have BIG power. How else do you maintain order?

I'm a Reagan Republican. That means I WANT Little Gov't to have Big power.

And my favorite show is all about Order...but it starts with Law.

H

"Hero. I have come to respect you"- Chrisisall, 2009.

FREMDFIRMA

Wednesday, February 18, 2009 3:27 AM

Smells a lot like a honey-pot trap to me, they're quite evasive about who owns and runs em, and have convered their tracks well both overtly and covertly.

Which by itself wouldn't mean much, but that in combination with a certain vagueness and no indication of where the money is coming from, let's just say when I have more than a few minutes free (won't be soon, dealin with four DVs) I intend to sweep their connection logs for certain Gov IP ranges.

-F

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