Diagnosis: retcon (Inara discussion)

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VERONIC

Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:34 AM

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Does anyone really want to see Mal get even MORE miserable? Good holy gravy.

Romantic and angsty Mal......interesnting

BYTEMITE

Saturday, February 14, 2009 1:36 AM

Poor, poor guy. *pities Mal*

2X2

Monday, March 16, 2009 11:43 AM

I think it's important to note that there is a difference between 'Inara is dying' and 'Inara dies'

Inara dying could have been played out for a long time in the series, without having her actually die. But yes, of course, we are talking about Joss.

Anyway, the person asking the question in the YouTube video is actually on my friend's list on Live Journal, and I tend to believe her when she says that her cousin did get this information from Joss... sadly :o/

It puts an entirely different spin on everything Inara - difficult to process. :o) I haven't yet gone back and watched the series from this POV yet, to see if I can glean any new ideas about Inara, but I'd like to.

BYTEMITE

Monday, March 16, 2009 2:30 PM

I think this is the little slieght of hand Joss is pulling with his confirmation of the Morena leak, too, the "dying" versus the "GOING to die." And he doesn't specify WHAT he's confirming, only that Morena leaked something.

It is Joss, but considering that Zoe is going to go through a grief and mourning arc, I really wonder if Joss is going to rehash that for Mal and Inara. And ending the franchise on her death wouldn't be a good move, because where Mal is now, there'd be no message, resolution, or closure.

So here's hoping we get a curveball.

CELLARDOOR

Monday, March 16, 2009 2:50 PM

It's all so cruel and maddening! The will they or won't they (and I'm not talking about M/I per se but rather about Mutant Enemy actually creating more canonical content) seems particularly cruel with no new announcements about graphic novels, sequel, web-vids or anything else. Why tease us if nothing's happening? Or is it that Morena's/Joss' confirmation in a sneaky way means that stuff IS still happening?

I want Dollhouse to succeed for Joss' sake (and because I actually like the show...!), but dang it, the show is taking most of his creative energy! :) I can take tragedy in moderation, but I hope he gives Mal a little bit of a break... at least temporarily? Doesn't it seem possible there's a point at which "strong female character" transitions to "foolishly bull-headed character with a noble streak"?

With Joss, isn't the difference between "dying" and "going to die" merely semanics? I doubt he'd differentiate, but then again many of you have been familiar with his work and modus operandi for much longer than I have, and there might yet be hope.

2X2

Monday, March 16, 2009 3:03 PM

Considering it was never revealed in canon that Inara was dying (only hinted at in commentary) it's entirely plausible that, in light of hte series's cancellation and the way the BDM turned out, (considering originally no one died) those changes may indeed change the course of what Joss has planned for Inara.

As for new canon... I don't think it's likely they'll be much while Joss is preoccupied with Dollhouse, sadly. There's the Book comics coming, supposedly, though it seems like it's been forever since we first heard about those, but yeah. I want some Mal and Inara canon, something to make up for everything that was cut out of the BDM.

A nice 14 hour mini-series would suit me just fine

CELLARDOOR

Monday, March 16, 2009 3:29 PM

Hehe, in essence, a second season? :) No, let's just call it a miniseries. That sounds like less long-term commitment is necessary. Is there any Browncoat who *wouldn't* wish for such a thing? :)

I guess I mostly missed out on the Book comic buzz. Probably it was slightly before my time, and with no news I've only heard the slightest rumors in reading up on fan sites.

I guess we'll have to turn to fanfic in the mean time. Sorry for the thread derailment off of an Inara discussion!

@2x2, is there a possibility of "The Slower Path" continuing? Please? :D

BYTEMITE

Monday, March 16, 2009 3:52 PM

The question about what Joss is going to do depends on two major factors, as I see it.

The first is how final any sequel might feel to him. I suspect he killed off Wash and Book last time because he thought the last movie might be it, and he wanted to send it off with a bang.

The second factor is whether he's in a killing mood, or a sneaky sneaky mood. I've seen both, limited though my exposure is (having not seen any of Buffy or Angel). I think everyone REMEMBERS Joss for the killing, and forgets the times when he's tricky and doesn't kill. I haven't been as exposed to the major kills, so I see his killing off characters as less common than other people might.

To be honest I don't really see any evidence in the series, the movie, or even TLB of Inara being ill. All we really had there was the one line in Out of Gas where she admits that she doesn't want to die. So I do think that's a more recent development in Inara's storyline. But it's one that fits well enough that it seems like it was planned all along.

Mal's already lost a war, a home, a family, his faith, his past, his future, innocence, joy... Good GRAVY, people. Throw the dog a bone!

2X2

Monday, March 16, 2009 3:58 PM

Re: thread-derailment...

Well, we were talking about Mal/Inara canon, weren't we? (I was *G*) and in particular a 14-hour Mal/Inara themed miniseries :D

As to the Slower Path, there will be, yes. I'm not 100% sure when yet, as we're hung up on a bit of a snag right now, but there will be.

I'm also really trying to finish up my old fics that are lying around, so if I can do that, TSP will have to wait a bit.

2X2

Monday, March 16, 2009 4:15 PM

The only reason anyone made any notice of that 'I dont' want to die at all' line was cuz it was pointed out in the commentary as having to do with Inara's secret. Otherwise, no one would have paid it any more mind than any other line... And though some think that her checkup on Ariel is connected to her 'illness' it could also just as easily be written off as just what she said it was - her regular annual Guild required checkup. So yeah, I think it would be pretty easy to drop that storyline if he chose to.

I also haven't seen much of Buffy or any of Angel, so I only know his reputation for killing, no first hand knowledge outside of Serenity, so I can't really say...

As to going out with a bang... well, I think at that point they had hope that if Serenity did really well, there would be a chance at sequels. But I honestly think that ship has sailed, sadly. The comics, perhpas a mini-series on Sci-Fi or HBO kinda deal could be possible, or, who knows, Joss wnats to do more internet shows... maybe that's the venue Firefly will soar in again?? Let's hope! Because I want more about Inara!!!

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