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Kaylee's sexuality. Was it toned down?

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UPDATED: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 09:40
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Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:44 AM

Kaylee must be always hot to trot in Firefly.
Engines make her hot.
She spends all her time in the ENGINE room, every hour, every day, all the time.

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Wednesday, February 11, 2009 7:47 AM

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Originally posted by PhyreLight:
Oh, I never thought River was stupid. She may have been reading something in Saffron's past. Heck, she could have also been predicting a future episode where they go to a planet that practices incest. (Ew.)







An incest episode? That would be all kinds of squicky, though on a deeper level.... no it would just be all kinds of squicky.

While that cut scene is hilarious, I think it's realistic for River, at that level of being mentally unstable, to confuse the love she and Simon have with the intimacy of a couple. Simon's been there for her through thick and thin, and she's pretty much the apple of his eye. I would have liked to have seen an episode that dealt with perhaps River reacting to Simon's infatuation with Kaylee once things got heated up and he wasn't there as he always is with her. Part of me thinks if the show had gone on long enough to delve into that we'd see River possibly a little jealous, and confused as to why Simon doesn't love her that way.

As for Kaylee, I just think she was never truly fleshed out. While I do like like Simon and Kaylee together, in the Verse according to Joss they might have lasted two seasons tops as soon as Simon relaxed for 30 seconds. And because Kaylee is so sexually open I would have liked to have that explored post-Simon. I personally think eventually Mal might have found Kaylee getting friendly with another girl in the engine room, which would have been an amusing arc for a story (something else for River to question and relay to her brother, Simon's reaction to it, with Jayne heading to his bunk, Mal going 'Huh', Inara glad for her and the others reactions). I know that may seem out of left field but in this 'verse orientation seems not to be of real importance, and I think Kaylee would be either curious or already partial to girls along with her guys. She thinks Inara looked glamorous with her female client, she's attracted to pretty, ect.

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Ash

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Wednesday, February 11, 2009 9:40 AM

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Originally posted by TuJiaoZuo:

An incest episode? That would be all kinds of squicky, though on a deeper level.... no it would just be all kinds of squicky.

While that cut scene is hilarious, I think it's realistic for River, at that level of being mentally unstable, to confuse the love she and Simon have with the intimacy of a couple. Simon's been there for her through thick and thin, and she's pretty much the apple of his eye. I would have liked to have seen an episode that dealt with perhaps River reacting to Simon's infatuation with Kaylee once things got heated up and he wasn't there as he always is with her. Part of me thinks if the show had gone on long enough to delve into that we'd see River possibly a little jealous, and confused as to why Simon doesn't love her that way.


Yet I think 'the ring of incest' is precisely why we wouldn't have gotten to see River getting jealous, either. :) I think your observation is nonetheless rather astute, as this really would be a realistic, real-life scenario for River.

Joss gives a bit of a lame answer, on the commentary track, as to why they didn't include that "I'm in the family way" scene (sorry, Joss, but you did). Of course, none of that matters, really, because I think Joss was wise to have left it out. Ultimately, I think it would have sent out the wrong message: while we, folks well-versed in the 'Verse, may understand that River, in that scene, is just confusing the love she and Simon have with the intimacy of a couple, I doubt the rest of puritan America would be so forgiving. :)

Apart from ratings, though, and regardless of any other consideration, I still believe it was good not to include that scene. And simply because it makes Firefly, for that reason alone, virtually unique, in that it shows, and cultivates the theme of love, devoid of sex for a change.


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