Firefly Conspiracy Theories, Vol. 2

POSTED BY: Quicksand
UPDATED: Friday, May 28, 2004 14:47
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HUMBLE

Wednesday, May 26, 2004 12:30 AM

Maybe Simon could sign someone else's name to the bill of good health instead of his own? Since we're on conspiracy theory, why is she so shy to have Simon check her out in OMR and again she avoids attention for the injury Early gave her in OIS? Also, maybe she has some quack doctor on Ariel that she bribes to provide her with the mystery medication she keeps in the syringe along with a bogus physical exam.

Just on the remote chance that Simon did discover that Inara had something wrong with her, wouldn't he be bound by his Hyppocratic Oath to inform medical authorities anonymously if Inara DID have some sort of disease? Simon being on the run with his sister does not immediately make him the scum of the universe odes it?

Just a theory. HUMBLE.

QUICKSAND

Wednesday, May 26, 2004 11:05 PM

I think JK already answered your query, Humble, at least as far as whatever I was going to say.

'Tis still, to me, a silly argument to think that Inara could go to ANY doctor, like you'd take your car to ANY mechanic. It's a highly renowned, specific ... well, guild, to use someone else's word. Companions are trained for YEARS (and I can't even remember if that's Canon or Conjecture at this point) at this facility, so of course it makes sense they must return once a year to be inspected, psychologically evaluated, the whole nine yards. This ain't no simple blood test, I'd imagine.

As for Serenity... it's not like a Volkswagen Beetle, not all Fireflies look alike. Perhaps the closest parallel we have in the 21st century are private jets, or ocean liners. THOSE you can recognize, if you're in the industry. Besides, how many Fireflies could possibly still be flying, in the Joss-verse?

Hmmm, that gives me an idea for a fanfic....

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--------------- (Qs)

JK

Wednesday, May 26, 2004 11:45 PM

Depends on how they're made (or were made, in this case). If one company made them (or even if a number of companies made the parts for them and one assembled them), the likelihood is that they're all pretty standard with minimal variations (and, I imagine, much of that would be the internal workings).

Or, alternatively, they were kind of cobbled together from bits and pieces in times when pickings were slim. Which is pretty damn cool, because you'd never have two Fireflys looking the same.

JK

HOWDYROCKERBABY1

Thursday, May 27, 2004 2:06 AM

don't forget in The Train Job River tells Simon the class number of Serenity. it'd be like the vin number on a computer...everyone would be different and it wouldn't be too hard for Inara to figure out Serenity's past.

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
MAL: This is my scrap of nowhere. You go on and find your own.
SAFFRON: You can't just leave me here, on this
lifeless piece of crap moon...
MAL: Sure I can.
SAFFRON: I'll die.
MAL: Well, as a courtesy, you might start
getting busy on that, cause all this chatter ain't doin' me any kindness.

LJOSALF

Thursday, May 27, 2004 3:03 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Quicksand:
...Besides, how many Fireflies could possibly still be flying, in the Joss-verse?

Well, I seem to recall some Fed/Alliance type saying something about there being 40,000 Fireflies cluttering up the black. Vaguely remember them being compared to cockroaches, too.

Ljosalf

The voyage of discovery is not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes.
Marcel Proust (1871 - 1922)

GUNHAND

Thursday, May 27, 2004 3:14 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by ljosalf:
Quote:
Originally posted by Quicksand:
...Besides, how many Fireflies could possibly still be flying, in the Joss-verse?

Well, I seem to recall some Fed/Alliance type saying something about there being 40,000 Fireflies cluttering up the black. Vaguely remember them being compared to cockroaches, too.

Ljosalf

The voyage of discovery is not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes.
Marcel Proust (1871 - 1922)

Indeed, he said there were 40,000 Fireflies flying around.

As far as it being the vin number I sorta disagree with that though, to me it sounded more like someone saying an "F-16C Block 40" as in pretty comprehensive knowledge of the ship. For example, a typical civilian could look at one and say,"Oh an F-16", someone who's a bit more in the know would say,"It's an F-16C" and an expert would say,"It's an F-16C Block 52". So they may all look (mostly) identical, in practice they're all (varyingly) different planes. That's the kind of knowledge River has there, down to submodels of submodels.

Book has some too, he doesn't just see a Firefly class, he also knows it's a -03 model with extenders. Most people would just see,"A Firefly."

If that makes any sense at all.

~-~-~-~-~-~-~-
"Oh hey, I got an idea. Instead of us hanging
around playing art critic till I get pinched by
the Man, how's about we move away from this
eerie-ass piece of work and get on with our
increasingly eerie-ass day, how's that?"

My eerie-ass website:
http://gunhandsfirefly.homestead.com/Index.html

PSELUS

Thursday, May 27, 2004 3:15 AM

just a thought...this is what first popped into my head when I found out the "suicide kit" wasnt' a suicide kit.

what if Companions are also trained Assassins? I mean look at Safron...but maybe she was such a bad assassin that she couldn't be a companion...a failed trained assassin could still be a powerful and dangerous person...just not good enough to be perfect and never be caught.
so maybe the syringe...was something Innarra was either gonna use on her fellow crewmates to save them...or on the Reavers.

I really don't know how much I believe that...but ya never know.

"Big Damn Heroes sir."

ANNIK

Thursday, May 27, 2004 4:55 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Pselus:
just a thought...this is what first popped into my head when I found out the "suicide kit" wasnt' a suicide kit.

what if Companions are also trained Assassins? I mean look at Safron...but maybe she was such a bad assassin that she couldn't be a companion...a failed trained assassin could still be a powerful and dangerous person...just not good enough to be perfect and never be caught.
so maybe the syringe...was something Innarra was either gonna use on her fellow crewmates to save them...or on the Reavers.

I really don't know how much I believe that...but ya never know.

"Big Damn Heroes sir."

Wow ... now that's someplace I hadn't gone in my musings. It takes the whole concept of 'dying with a smile on your face' to a new level.

Cheers,
Annik
... my sister's a ship. We had a complicated childhood.

DRAKON

Thursday, May 27, 2004 9:40 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by HUMBLE:
I find it hard to believe that Simon is incompetent to give a physical exam to a woman.

Competence has nothing to do with it.

Inara is the only legitimate business person on the ship. She is the only one who is legally 'clean' and the perception of her as an honest business person is of value to Serenity's crew.

So, you have a choice between just getting the damn exam the legal way, or have forged papers that put your career at risk, as well as, if discovered, mark you as a illegitimate and thereby no longer of utility to Serenity's other operations.

No matter how good the forgeries are, they are still forgeries. No matter how competent Simon is, he is still a fugitive. Its a risk that simply ain't worth taking.

"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"

QUICKSAND

Friday, May 28, 2004 12:09 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by JK:
Depends on how they're made (or were made, in this case). If one company made them (or even if a number of companies made the parts for them and one assembled them), the likelihood is that they're all pretty standard with minimal variations (and, I imagine, much of that would be the internal workings).JK

Though Joss could change this at any time, I think I'd like to imagine the Firefly-Class spaceship as a Volkswagen Beetle, ca. 1963-1969.

Yes, you still see them today. They are mocked, ridiculed... but very, VERY sturdy, and no two look alike anymore.

Who's with me?

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