Angelus Arcanum

Was Lorne gay ?

POSTED BY: AURaptor
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AURAPTOR

Friday, January 30, 2009 1:20 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
I always kind of assumed he was, but only because of his flamboyance and the fact that he was so FABULOUS. I guess that's a bit presumptuous of me...

It wasn't anything that bothered me about him, though - if fact, I loved the character of Lorne. Who else could call Angel "Angel-cakes"? :)

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ANGEL: Is it gonna to be alright? Is there a stain?

LORNE: Oh, relax, crumb cake. I've got the soda water working overtime. Man, little Connor burps like a champ.

ANGEL: At least he's sleeping.

LORNE: Who wouldn't? With that sweet Irish lullaby you crooned. Just a hair flat on the bridge, but more to the point... Cordelia?

ANGEL: What about her?

LORNE: I read you while you were singing, you big corn muffin, and uh, can't say as I blame. I mean, what a woman she's become.

ANGEL: You're not supposed to be reading me. Anyway, you read me wrong.

LORNE: Sorry, strudel. It's not just when you're singing. We got a little term back in Pylea. Kyrumption?

ANGEL: I know it.

LORNE: Okay. When two great heroes come together...

ANGEL: There will be no coming together, okay? Everything we've been through together and all anybody wants to talk about is...

LORNE: Can't fight Kyrumption, cinnamon buns. It's fate. It's the stars. Kyrumption is...

ANGEL: Stop saying that. (petulant) And stop calling me pastries

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CHANNAIN

Friday, January 30, 2009 1:20 AM

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Originally posted by TheRealMe:
If I recall correctly, all members of Lorne's clan were able to sense things psychically. I think that Lorne's brother (?) used it to hunt. But Lorne's ability was a bit different, I think. He could use it to foretell someone's future.

And that ability only worked when people sang.

I will never, EVER forget the look on Lorne's face when Fred sang "You are my Sunshine" after she and Wesley got together.

For purposes of saving any Angel inductees from spoilers, I'll stop there. If you've seen it, you know what I mean, and any further comments on that should be written with the spoiler commands.

If you haven't seen it. Do.

If Lorne was the female of the species, does that make him gay? Or is it a human perception of his male oriented appearance that makes us lean toward the idea that he's gay?

In our culture, as humans, seeing a male attracted to another male means homosexual. In Lorne's species, it would be considered heterosexual.

Was he gay? If you mean generally happy and completely FABULOUS. Oh heck yeah. I LOVED Lorne. I'd have gone to the club myself and belted out "Isn't it Ironic" just for him.

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PHOENIXROSE

Friday, January 30, 2009 2:12 AM

He was sensitive (I mean, come on, empath!) he had a lilt to his voice, loved music and art, had a sense of style (only someone with green skin could pull off that suit, am I right?) was persistently friendly, loved women but never touched them, and wasn't really at his best in a physical fight, more handling the emotional end of things.
In other words? Stereotypical gay man in a green demon body.
However, as has been said, since he wasn't human that meant very little. Human standards don't apply to him. He was cast out by his family as a disappointment because he didn't enjoy seeing blood run and loved music. Now, maybe that is a metaphor for the ostracized gay man in human society, I couldn't say. But lacking any members of his own species to pair with (if, in fact, they 'pair' in a sexual way on Pylea anyway) we never saw him in a romantic or sexual entanglement. He seemed to get a certain fulfillment from his friendly relationships with people, no matter their gender. Maybe, considering his empathic powers, he functioned somewhat like an incubus, feeding off emotions (if not sexual emotions) and that's part of why he had the bar and the interactions he did.
He never seemed to want sex or romance, just peace and music.

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AURAPTOR

Friday, January 30, 2009 3:07 AM

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Originally posted by Channain:

I will never, EVER forget the look on Lorne's face when Fred sang "You are my Sunshine" after she and Wesley got together.

One of the most dramatic moments of the series,imo.

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Was he gay? If you mean generally happy and completely FABULOUS. Oh heck yeah. I LOVED Lorne. I'd have gone to the club myself and belted out "Isn't it Ironic" just for him.

Lorne definitely grew on me as a character. Before I started watching ANGEL seriously, and had any clue of what the show was about, I scoffed at the idea of some green dude w/ horns had any real purpose of being on the show, save for possible camp value. But, as was the case for the rest of the show, I saw there was so much more than I thought from 1st glance. Funny, that.

AURAPTOR

Saturday, June 13, 2009 1:55 PM

I'll answer my own question - No. Lorne wasn't 'gay', at least not as how humans understand it.

Was re-watching Waiting in the Wings, and Lorne is telling Angel that he should show his true feelings toward Cordy. Lorne, in the midst of calling Angel 'pastry' names, mentions that he'd take a pass at her, if he thought she looked good in green ( or near enough ). Lorne might switch hit, but now that Andy's gone, I just miss the guy.

And now I'm sad. Great.

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RAHLMACLAREN

Saturday, June 13, 2009 7:02 PM

Lorne’s obviously very eccentric, but not gay. Not that there’s anything wrong with that!

Exhibit A: -From “Happy Anniversary”- Lorne is worried about embarrassing himself in front of the opposite sex.
“I better stick to the shadows and think of something to say should we happen upon a comely co-ed.”

Exhibit B: -Also from “Happy Anniversary”- Lorne thinks Cordelia is hot.
“...Not to mention, Cordelia? Wooh! Hot-o-rama! In the 'oh my sizzling loins' sense of the word, if you know what I mean.”

Exhibit C: -From “Belonging”- Through extensive research, Lorne knows where to find the females.
“While the rest of you boys were off hunting, I was down at the water hole chatting up the
senoritas, gathering a little love.”

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Originally posted by Cybersnark:
No, but remember that there doesn't seem to be any sexual dimorphism in Pylea (Lorne's mom was played by a man and had a beard, yet probaby had a female reproductive role). This would suggest that either Pylean males & females look alike (like dwarves), or that they're hermaphroditic and concepts of "male" and "female" have no relevance.

I think it was just that Lorne’s mom was supposed to be SO ugly that the creators had to cast a bearded man. Do we know how OLD his mother is?

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We've never seen any "female" members of Lorne's species, except for the obviously costumed dancers at his Vegas show.

I could of sworn I saw one or two when the gang went to Pylea. I'll have to watch again.

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GRIPPER

Monday, June 15, 2009 12:22 AM

I still liked that scene where Lorne overheard Holt humming a ditty as he exited the bar...and gave atimley warning for all present to RUN!...right before that fuel drum and the fragmentation grenade came bouncing down the stairs.Way to throw in a useful skill set,Joss!

CHRISK

Friday, August 21, 2009 4:00 PM

My own opinion is that Lorne isn't homosexual, (and as pointed out, the sexual standards of his species may be very different,) but on arriving in LA, he came across some examples of the 'flamboyantly fabulous gay' archetype, liked aspects of it, and adopted the whole thing into his persona as a way of acclimating to Earth society.

PERFECTPARADIGM

Tuesday, January 11, 2011 5:34 AM

In the words of someone else on the internet:

'So totally bi.'

It made me smile when I read it.