Scenes that bug you in The Dark Knight, and Iron Man.

POSTED BY: OPPYH
UPDATED: Friday, January 30, 2009 17:41
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OPPYH

Friday, January 23, 2009 6:06 PM

The Dark Knight:

Bug me part-Batman and Rachel fall roughly 1000 feet from a penthouse rooftop, land on a car and they don't even have the wind knocked out of them.
Later in the film Batman drops a bad guy 20 feet, and breaks his legs.????

Iron Man:

Bug me part-Iron Man busts through a wing of a jet, and doesn't break a bone in his body.

Suspend disbelief my ass.

THESOMNAMBULIST

Friday, January 23, 2009 6:23 PM

Ha,ha...

In terms of Batman, I still have trouble with the way Bruce's voice goes all gravely and deep. I know this is par for the course when it comes to superheroes and the wearing of costumes - but it irks me!

Iron Man... Well much like you were saying about Dark Knight and the lack of realism when flung from great heights, I think the moments in Iron Man when he's testing out the boots and he shoots into the wall or roof and just kinda winces a bit. The velocity he hit those things with would have killed him. But that's nit-picky, I realise it's for laughs... and I must confess I did.

CYBERSNARK

Friday, January 23, 2009 9:42 PM

Well, I figure Batman hasn't "grown into" his voice yet. Ironically, Bale has a perfect Batman voice (gravelly, distinct from his normal "Bruce Wayne" voice, yet nowhere near as "enraged" as the one he uses now). He used it in Howl's Moving Castle.

The only real "implausibility" problem in TDK for me was that Two-Face could still speak clearly without half his lips.

Well, and Commissioner Gordon having a son, but that was more of a "WTF" moment (I only ever knew about Babs, and thought it would've been much cooler to have her hero-worshipping dad and wanting to be a cop when she grows up [and then having her life saved by Batman]).

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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

CHRISISALL

Friday, January 23, 2009 9:51 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:

Bug me part-Batman and Rachel fall roughly 1000 feet from a penthouse rooftop, land on a car and they don't even have the wind knocked out of them.
Later in the film Batman drops a bad guy 20 feet, and breaks his legs.????

That, and when Rachael dies. Just stupid. Lame anger-producing plot device.

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Bug me part-Iron Man busts through a wing of a jet, and doesn't break a bone in his body.

I had less trouble with that than him landing face first in that sand at flying speed in a cobbled-together suit with no emergency-inflate pads in it (Iron Man air-bags, heh heh).

The laughing Chrisisall

ZEEK

Friday, January 23, 2009 10:50 PM

Both had plenty of unbelievable moments.

Dark Knight: Come on cell phone sonar? Are you kidding me? That's just plain ridiculous. The joker went into a hospital during it's off hours to plant tons of explosives? What time do hospitals close again? Same with the ferries. At what point did he sneak tons of explosives in those? And no one looks in the cargo hold before setting out for the day? That's just dead space that they built into the ships for grins?

Ironman: Apparently Tony Stark is immune to inertia. How many times did he go from flying speed to dead stop without a problem? His first suit was also far from believable. I'm not really buying that there are enough parts in missles to put together a suit full of hydraulics. I think we pretty much have to suspend belief for his technology though otherwise it wouldn't make much sense to go to that movie in the first place.

I liked them both, but there were clearly parts that could have been handled better.

WASHNWEAR

Friday, January 23, 2009 11:07 PM

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Originally posted by OPPYH:
The Dark Knight:

Bug me part-Batman and Rachel fall roughly 1000 feet from a penthouse rooftop, land on a car and they don't even have the wind knocked out of them.

Exactly. All I can say is, that must be one mother of a cape. The voice issue is also an...issue, but one I've come to be at relative peace with. Coulda done without the ferry-foo. And those were among the most symmetrical third-degree burns I've ever seen. Maggie Gyllenhaal. But really, my only true gripe with Dark Knight was the whole VerizonVision deal ("Can you see me now?")

Can't remember any gripes about Iron Man. I'll grant pretty much everything that everybody else here has mentioned about it, but somehow I was able to sail over all of it on a wave of sweet credulity...

It was like landing face-first in the sand at 500 miles an hour and walking away without injury happens to me all the time when we got here!

CYBERSNARK

Friday, January 23, 2009 11:20 PM

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Originally posted by WASHnwear:
like landing face-first in the sand at 500 miles an hour and walking away without injury happens to me all the time

*thinks*

It is kinda depressing how much of my knowledge about the quantity of "survivable" damage a human body can endure comes from personal experience.

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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.

BLUESUNCOMPANYMAN

Friday, January 23, 2009 11:34 PM

There are plenty of "thedarkknightsucks" websites out there that cut the film to ribbons over minuta. But I enjoyed it nonetheless.

Firefly itself has plenty of flubs. My fav being the scene when Alan is pretenting to fly the ship in the pilot episode. Watch it with the commentary running, it's great.

SMAUG

Tuesday, January 27, 2009 5:52 PM

Batman:

LOVED the Dark Knight.. BUT:

The voice!! Like fingernails on a blackboard

Fix: Just tone it down.

As someone alluded to: When did the joker have time/ability/resources to plan one major attack after another after another after another after another after another? I would like to have actually SEEN the Joker doing a a little planning and testing before hatching all these diabolical plots.

Fix: A 30 second scene showing some behind the scene's planning by the joker. Don't have to give away what he is planning.. only that he is up to no good. Could even have showed more how crazy and evil the joker is by haveing him kill any of his cronnies who say the plan won't work.

Cellphone vision: Stupid and totally unneccesary plot point. I don't mind that Batman has gadgets.. but I prefer them not to become major plot points. That's what I didn't like about the first movie. I LOVED the look and idea that the Batmobile is a abaondoned military skunk works project. It makes perfect sense... but just leave it at that.. a cool looking armored car for batman to get around in. The moment that it started jumping from rooftop to rooftop is when the movie went from a potential 8-9 to about a 4-5 for me.

Fix: Just cut it out (the cellpone vision)

Ironman:

Loved the movie.. BUT:

Let's see... Tony Starks major new weapon that he has to go all the way to the middle east to demonstrate to the military is basically just a cluster bomb? THEN the terrorist attack him to kill him only to find out it's Stark so they keep him alive and want him to build this cluster bomb for them with a few scrap parts, some duct tape and some bubblegum. Hmm.. let's see.. WTF?!?!? Why not just wait two weeks when you will be able to buy them from Stark industries under the table from Jeff Bridges!!!

Then... Stark takes said scrap parts, bubble gum and duct tape and a hammer and is able to put together a robosuit!!! Meanwhile the terrorists never once really go in to check on what the heck he is doing... they only look at a video monitor and once in a while and ask each other "does that look like a missle to you?"

Fix: Make the "cluster bomb" a more formitable weapon. Have the terriorist simply hold Tony for ransom. Jeff Bridges has no reason to pay ransom, since he wants Tony dead. Tony teases terrorist by saying he can build a better weapon than the "cluster bomb" he was there to demonstrate. Tells them if he doesn't deliver they can kill him, and or still try to get the ransom. Tells them what he needs. So he gets all of the tools and parts he needs to build a mark I ironman suit. Uses suit to escape.

Then Jeff Bridges... umm... what exactly was his motivation to off Tony???? We're supposed to imply from one shot of a time magazine cover that Jeff Bridges is jealous of Tony enough to want to kill him? Hello.. Jeff, as second in command has tremendous power, influence, money, success, etc. So what's his brilliant plan? To off his main idea guy?????!?!? WTF???? He's so jealous he's willing to cut off his own head??

Fix: Simply give more backstory of why Jeff Bridges would be jealous of Tony. Maybe Jeff used to be married and was goign through a rough time with his wife. Maybe they seperated for a time, but Jeff really wanted to work things out, Maybe Tony being the a-hole he is, slept with Jeff's ex-wife during this time which totally broke up the marriage for good, and all for what was just a sport f*ck for Tony? Jeff says it doesn't matter to Tony and forgives him.. but obviously doesn't. Ok.. that was better than what they showed (or didn't show), and that was the first idea that came to my head with about 2 seconds worth of thought.

Oh.. and then not to mention that Jeff is able to immediatly hop into his own robosuit and fight as well as Tony who has been practicing for weeks/months with his own.

Fix: Does every superhero movie have to end with a hugh battle sequence? I would like to have seen Tony and Jeff just duke it out man to man with NO suits!

STORYMARK

Tuesday, January 27, 2009 6:06 PM

TDK - Scanning the bullet for fingerprints. And the voice (which I like in intent, and was fine in begins, but was too over the top this time).

Iron Man - Well, half the stuff he does in that suit should kill him instantly, but I guess you just have to roll with it. The whole "throw the old heart away" subplot was so predictable as to almost insult my intellegence.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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