Revolvers In Space
POSTED BY: TinyTimm
UPDATED: Thursday, May 27, 2004 02:56
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Hey Jeff, did you see anything else that looked to you like a compressed gas container? Your comments on the revolver made me think of a new theory: in this future, a lot of weapons would be based on historical designs, but wouldn't necessarily use historical propellants. One possibility is that these people are better than we are at handling gases at very high pressures. Which is an idea Whedon might have stolen from Stirling's Drakaverse.
Indeed, if any props look like they were copied from the Smithsonian, it's probably because they were. It makes sense that potential space colonists would raid the place for designs that could be manufactured with an impaired industrial base.
This is not the first time I've heard the Smithsonian considered as a weapon design repository. I remember in the late 80s, there was some concern that aggresive countries would go there to copy V2 missles, and other things that might prove useful to people who can't buy from Boeing or General Dynamics. Fortunately, Sadam Hussein only likes high-tech weapons, even though he doesn't really have the industrial base to support them.
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Haken, "update post" is broken!
How is it broken?
Seeing doubles...
Hmm...let's try an update here.
Updated fine.
What was the error you got?
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Civil War? That's funny. My first reaction to that pistol was that it was some kind of futuristic weapon designed with a retro look.
We have firearms going back to the dawn of gunpowder in production today. The Italians make copies of all the major civil war long arms and handguns. Usually better than the originals, but I'll examine the current production when it's a century old and reevaluate that opinion.
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Hey, been to the Exploritorium in San Francisco?
Only the one in Columbus, Ohio and that was about 1986 when I was there for the civil rights march.
Jeff Timm
Who goes where the techno geeks goes.
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Hey Jeff, did you see anything else that looked to you like a compressed gas container? One possibility is that these people are better than we are at handling gases at very high pressures.
Actually, I checked some research materials and found an old Crosman revolver looking pellet gun with a gas cylinder in just that positon, Slung under the barrel where it's easy to change.
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Originally posted by Zicsoft:
Indeed, if any props look like they were copied from the Smithsonian, it's probably because they were.... This is not the first time I've heard the Smithsonian considered as a weapon design repository. I remember in the late 80s, there was some concern that aggresive countries would go there to copy V2 missles,...
Professionals tell me the V2 is too dangerous to build. You can buy better components off the shelf. What the pros worry about are shipping containers from Pakistan, the Phillipines and Indonesia in the middle of the Christmas shipping rush.
Jeff Timm
Who notes the most difficult part of missile design is getting the warhead back into the atmosphere and getting it to detonate somewhere useful.
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Quote:I make a post. Then I decide to revise my post. I edit the post. When I click "update" I go to the main page, and the post is unchanged. Not the first time, actually. Happens on and off.
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Originally posted by Zicsoft:
Haken, "update post" is broken!
How is it broken?
Seeing doubles...
Hmm...let's try an update here.
Updated fine.
What was the error you got?
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That's strange, it seems to work fine on my computer.
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Zicsoft:
Hi, tech support here. What browser are you using and what version? Also, check your security settings aren't too high. Do you use a pop-up stopper or other internet 'utility' package? Could be any number of things; but those are the first to check.
To Tinytimm, especially:
Grrrreat thread. Post more!
Respectfully,
zoid
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This is old. But good.
And I'll second that the .357 is a very good caliber. And the fact that it can handle all manner of loads, means you can actually afford to practice enough with it to stay sharp without going into a financial hole and at the same time have a weapon with some actual power in it, that you're familiar with from long use.
Lots of people I know use .22s to keep "sharp" with accuracy but then as soon as they try to get off that 2nd round with their "real gun" .40 S&W or what have you they float it.
I've had plenty of firearms instructors and they all have (sometimes wildly) different views on how you should shoot but I've found (and told people) that you can be Annie Oakley with a .22 and with your first shot from a big bore pistol, but what happens if you can't hit the broad side of a barn with it on the second and subsequent shots? If your first shot drops a target (and let's be real here I'm not talking a paper target) then you're in a world of hurt if you can't follow up accurately.
Shooting is an odd thing, some people are born with it, some people learn to be really good but no matter what if you don't practice with what you'll actually be shooting (when it means something not your plinker) then you're not as well off as someone who puts a couple hundred rounds through it a week no matter what their "natural" skill level is.
Yeah that was long and rambly, but I'm like that. 
So a .357 is a good choice for a weapon and it's one of the top 3 I tell people to get if they ask me my opinion on what they should get. Which, to be honest, is an oddly frequent occurance. The reason I prefer it is that I also got a Winchester 93 Trapper in the same caliber, only having to pack one caliber means you can carry more (or more types) for the same weight as if you were packing say a .30-30 and a .45 for instance. You can do the same thing with a revolver in .44 Magnum or .45 Long Colt and a Winchester in the same chambering but I prefer the .357 myself because of the relative cheapness of ammunition over the other two.
But I am sorely tempted to pick up the .44 Beretta single action and Winchester Legacy combo I saw for sale a few weeks ago...
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