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YINYANG

Friday, January 23, 2009 2:03 AM

Well, the Vote for Firefly threads are a nice place to go to help Firefly/Serenity gain visibility.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=2&t=36427

There's also this crew:

http://www.savefirefly.org

Otherwise, the Guerrilla Marketing section is the place I'd recommend checking.

http://www.fireflyfans.net/threadlist.asp?b=20

SIGMANUNKI

Friday, January 23, 2009 7:25 AM

Thanks YingYang You nailed it on the head... I'm definitely an old fogy.

Quote:
Originally posted by stillson:
The website is for after they see firefly. I think that some of them will want to read it after seeing firefly. For the same reason that we all ended up here.

The website is a secondary point, to give people somewhere to go after Firefly affects them. To make things a little easier. I don't think we need more websites for browncoats. I think we need one that gives you all the info you need to become a browncoat.

Well, then they would already know about FF/S. So, why the explanation about what a Reaver is, etc? IMO (and I believe others as well), if you're coming to this site after having watched the series, then you're already a Browncoat.

(NOTE: The "real Browncoat" thing is a real point of contention around here. Many people, including myself, find it insulting that some people think that you have to do a certain amount, or know a certain amount, or whatever a certain amount to be a "real Browncoat." Many of us have the opinion that if you love the series, then you're a Browncoat. No need to go crazy about the thing or chest beat to "prove" it. If the love is there, then your coat is brown.)

Not to be rude, but I think you going off half-cocked here. As in, you have had an idea, but haven't worked it out and as such, have posted the idea pre-maturely. If you have another idea for a website than the above, then work some of it out so that there is a relatively solid idea of its content and repost when done.

Quote:
Originally posted by stillson:

Is there a central group working on these things, or a general consensus? I'm completely up for working with other people. I'm even up for my idea being shot down with good reasons. I just want to do something, you know?

There is no central group working on anything, never has been. Its always been a loose organisation of people working together. Sometimes (most times?) projects have also been organised on multiple forums. It's more along the lines of someone running with something and others joining up rather than anything else. I don't think that one could expect anything else from a group of fans.

(NOTE: At two points I attempted to contact several people on this forum that indicated that they were programmers and willing to do something. The point was to get a group together to accomplish projects of a larger scale than any one person would be able to alone. The response was virtually non-existent on both occasions. Hell, I even did a little something and posted a link here - which got downloaded a couple times. Zero response even though I asked for some. So, I stopped the project.)

I did reply on your blog entry:

http://www.fireflyfans.net/showblog.asp?b=8295

Regarding the reasons why a central site doesn't currently exist and what can be done. But, a few concrete examples here:

Still Flying: http://www.stillflying.net/

Continuing the series through fan made scripts. I'm not sure of there current status.

EV Nova Firefly Mod (Game): http://s4.invisionfree.com/GunRunner/index.php?act=idx

Has gotten to the point where the mod's end is in sight. Though "just" episode one. Not sure what help they need now. But, I'm sure they'll let you know if you ask.

There's also fan fic and art, which are popular enough pass times. There is another project that I could post a link to. But, its status is somewhat dubious at the moment. So, I'm hesitant to do so.

At any rate, there's some ideas for what to do. Yes, they all take a good chunk of time and energy to do/be a part of. But, nothing worth doing is easy.

----
I am on The Original List (twice). We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FILLYGIRL

Friday, January 23, 2009 8:19 AM

Gee, we've done nothing for years, wonder how "Serenity" got made, I guess NO BODY, bought the DVD's or signed petitions, or went to cons and bought swag and nobody went to see the BDH's when they came to your town, and no body has started several boards to help people understand FF/S(thats Firefly/Serenity)and there aren't any CHARITIES that benefit from us BROWNCOATS!! we've done nothing...how sad

You INSULTED me and every other person in the FF/S world,....
'we don't need more Browncoats',...where do you get off ?

JMHO

Chaplain of the 76th Independant Battalion

Do not bother dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

...it's worse than you know...Operative
...it usually is.....Mal

STILLSON

Friday, January 23, 2009 12:15 PM

Didn't mean an insult.

By "don't need more browncoats" I just meant that if we expose enough people, the browncoats will come, and we don't need to specifically go after them.

And I didn't mean to imply that nothing has happened. I just saw an opportunity with the episodes being on hulu to try something else.

I guess I just got a little excited and put my foot in my mouth.

sorry if I offended anyone.

--
Shiny!

FILLYGIRL

Friday, January 23, 2009 12:27 PM

We know you did not want to upset people, but you didn't think before you posted. Can you explain WHY new people ALWAYS think they got an idea that the rest of us haven't had or tried?

You need to read the boards a lot before you come on here blasting guns and shooting up the place, if you had, you would understand why we are VERY PROUD to be Browncoats, the name came from Joss (in-directly). As other people have posted, we are Browncoats, because we CHOSE that name. There are no Browncoats in the BDS, we are them. (BDS=BIG DAMN SERIES)
Have you watched the intro by Joss on the Serenity DVD, extended not Blu ray, Joss explains it much better than I...
Remember in the store at the beginning of the movie(Serenity), when the store keeper says" ya'll are Browncoats?" loose translation, Joss put this here for US Browncoats.

Keep trying....

Chaplain of the 76th Independant Battalion

Do not bother dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

...it's worse than you know...Operative
...it usually is.....Mal

LEMMING

Friday, January 23, 2009 1:08 PM

Quote: "(NOTE: The "real Browncoat" thing is a real point of contention around here. Many people, including myself, find it insulting that some people think that you have to do a certain amount, or know a certain amount, or whatever a certain amount to be a "real Browncoat." Many of us have the opinion that if you love the series, then you're a Browncoat. No need to go crazy about the thing or chest beat to "prove" it. If the love is there, then your coat is brown.)

Not to be rude, but I think you going off half-cocked here. As in, you have had an idea, but haven't worked it out and as such, have posted the idea pre-maturely. If you have another idea for a website than the above, then work some of it out so that there is a relatively solid idea of its content and repost when done."

This is solid advice and I pretty much agree with all the above.

Here's a little secret. Not everyone who watches Firefly will like it or "get it". It will just be "some show" to them. (Hard to believe, but it's true and that will hold no matter how wide you make folk aware of it.)

Even fewer will have the imagination to be totally hooked and become a Browncoat (like it says: you love it, then your coat is Brown as far as most of us are concerned)

The best way we can support Firefly is to continue what we are doing now and that others have mentioned here. Trying to group all Browncoats together is like herding cats (impossible anyway and it pisses off the cats)

Some folk will always prefer one board or website over another and that's fine. There is a wide variety to choses from and all have their various merits and annoyances enough to suit most tastes.

Folks like us who do love the show, do get it and consider ourselves Browncoats are the ones who *have* gone online looking for more...and found it in abundance I might add.
(Try googling Firefly Podcast, to mention just one example. We *do* stuff, as do so many others in all sorts of areas.)

Being inspired to add to that is a good thing. Being inspired to do anything out of love is usually good, but it's also sensible to see what has gone before. Researching want you want to see is kinda obvious. For example, how did you find this board? Did you look beyond it?

Everyone was a newb at some point. I love that you have got excited enough about this show to want to do something, but you aren't the first (by some way) nor the last. And the "don't need more browncoats" was inevitably going to make you sound foolish and get a less than happy response.

Don't worry though, it will pass :-)

Nick

LEMMING

Friday, January 23, 2009 1:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by FireflyPassenger:
www.bigdamnboard.com is a web directory for all sites Firefly related.

www.browncoats.com

This site is great for explaining who we are.

Big Damn Board is a good one indeed. And it seems to be fairly regularly updated, unlike browncoats.com (which nevertheless does indeed give a good description of Browncoats)

One of the things we are developing The Signal podcast's site towards is very similar. We are gradually expanding what we offer on the site with the intent that that it become at least one of the "one stop shop" sites for Browncoats, with links to as many others as we can manage ultimately. None of us will ever be able to encompass the whole fandom (it's too damn big and too damn independantly minded! :-), but sites are already out there that together cover pretty much what folk might want to find out. Plus of course, different styles will suit different folk. I bang on about it, but I'm well aware that not everyone is into listening to podcasts :-)

They're just so much fun though :-)

Nick

(The Signal's Homepage: www.serenityfirefly.com)

FIREFLYPASSENGER

Friday, January 23, 2009 5:32 PM

www.browncoats.com recently had a Firefly Blu-ray give away contest. I think maybe they just need folks to contribute or offer assistance.

It was one of the first sites and it gives great history to everything Firefly Browncoats related.

Thanks for your words to Stillson. I knew it was just newbie excitement wanting to do something.

It does get tiresome folks thinking we haven't tried doing something. We just need to be patient that's all.

LEMMING

Friday, January 23, 2009 10:55 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by FireflyPassenger:
www.browncoats.com recently had a Firefly Blu-ray give away contest. I think maybe they just need folks to contribute or offer assistance.

It was one of the first sites and it gives great history to everything Firefly Browncoats related.

Thanks for your words to Stillson. I knew it was just newbie excitement wanting to do something.

It does get tiresome folks thinking we haven't tried doing something. We just need to be patient that's all.

Indeedy.

Cap'n said it his own self:

"You hold. Hold till I get back"

(We Hold was The Signal's slogan for last year. This year it's "What's the first rule of flyin'?" :-)

In the meantime of course, there is *lots* to get involved with. The above about browncoats.com is just one fine example. Contributing is easy and just about any form of it helps sustain and grow the fandom.

Continuing with all the guerilla marketing options we've used over the years (and lending someone the BDS is still probably the most effective. Get a lending copy or 3!) is a good choice. Doing something for CSTS this year is another. The list goes on and on and is only limited by your imagination. Getting involved with an existing fanac (Fan Activity/Fan Action) is often the best place to start and is frequently where newer ideas spring from. If it's good and it's new, folk will run with it if it works.

Nick
(The Signal: www.serenityfirefly.com)

FIREFLYPASSENGER

Friday, January 23, 2009 11:45 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Lemming:
Cap'n said it his own self:

"You hold. Hold till I get back"

(We Hold was The Signal's slogan for last year. This year it's "What's the first rule of flyin'?" :-)

In the meantime of course, there is *lots* to get involved with. The above about browncoats.com is just one fine example. Contributing is easy and just about any form of it helps sustain and grow the fandom.

Continuing with all the guerilla marketing options we've used over the years (and lending someone the BDS is still probably the most effective. Get a lending copy or 3!) is a good choice. Doing something for CSTS this year is another. The list goes on and on and is only limited by your imagination. Getting involved with an existing fanac (Fan Activity/Fan Action) is often the best place to start and is frequently where newer ideas spring from. If it's good and it's new, folk will run with it if it works.

Nick
(The Signal: www.serenityfirefly.com)

Very true!

Rosie :)

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