The end of an error.
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Tuesday, August 4, 2026 09:56
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Clearly, the Germans are happy with their government.
But you still haven't shown a cause-effect relationship between gun ownership/ widespread military training and low crime. In fact, you haven't even shown a consistent correlation across several nations. You THINK that's the answer to low crime rate, based on your persoanl experience, but you're going to have to go farther than that. Too many other factors are different.
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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.
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Sig, are you going to make me look all this shit up?
Even if I did, and presented it to you, you would just say that the results are up for interpretation.
So, Ill just skip ahead, and agree to disagree.
Savy?
Feeling lazy today, and don't want to get into an argument spiral with you.
(See? No snarky comments from me. Just an adios...)
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Quote:Yes, you SHOULD look it up.
Sig, are you going to make me look all this shit up?
Quote:That's what learning is all about, innit?
Even if I did, and presented it to you, you would just say that the results are up for interpretation.
Quote:And I'll agree to disagree since you have't made your case and apparently aren't interested in doing so.
I'll just skip ahead, and agree to disagree.
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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.
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Wulfie, the simplest, cleanest method is to encourage manufacturers to make proper training a condition of sale - AND make them responsible for who they sell to.
Customer comes in, hands over the dough, certificate of training and a legal statement signed by their physician that they have no physical/mental *issues* that'll cause a problem.
Seller checks and verifies documents, then files them in a sealed hardcopy or electronic form which is sacrosanct to everything but a proper warrant issued for that particular individuals records in relation to a crime.
(i.e no "fishing expeditions")
This ensures that the folk who have a gat know how to use it properly and when not to, sets a bulwark against handing them to known violent criminals - and does it without violating anyones rights or involving the Government where it has no right or reason to be.
As for the rest - even Ghandi had a gat, he was just unwilling to use force till he'd tried other methods, most folk don't get that cause over time the bullshit mythmaking factory has kinda distorted what he was saying.
His point was that resorting to violence first cause it's easier and often more short term effective is a stupid and foolish way to conduct yourself, has a tendancy to cause as many problems as it solves, and lock you and the other party into an endless cycle of revenge and count-revenge that does nothing but make work for the undertaker - but he did *NOT* speak against it's necessity sometimes or as something to be avoided at all costs, he spoke of it as the last resort and a failure to use other means effectively.
I cannot teach you violence, as I do not myself believe in it. I can only teach you not to bow your heads before any one even at the cost of your life.
I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent.
It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence.
Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary.
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.
Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest.
An unjust law is itself a species of violence. Arrest for its breach is more so.
Anger is the enemy of non-violence and pride is a monster that swallows it up.
I suppose leadership at one time meant muscles; but today it means getting along with people.
If we are to teach real peace in this world, and if we are to carry on a real war against war, we shall have to begin with the children.
Intolerance is itself a form of violence and an obstacle to the growth of a true democratic spirit.
It is any day better to stand erect with a broken and bandaged head then to crawl on one's belly, in order to be able to save one's head.
It is easy enough to be friendly to one's friends. But to befriend the one who regards himself as your enemy is the quintessence of true religion. The other is mere business.
Man's nature is not essentially evil. Brute nature has been know to yield to the influence of love. You must never despair of human nature.
You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty.
When restraint and courtesy are added to strength, the latter becomes irresistible.
First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.
Ghandi never demanded anyone else take non-violence as far as he did, and in fact plainly stated that if you could not resist non-violently, then you could, and should resist violently because as awful as violence is, to not resist that which is wrong was surely worse.
He wasn't the moon-eyed pacifist nutter modern "history" makes him out to be, but rather a dude with a serious point to make, who's people were in a situation much like Hamas, where violence was *not* gonna solve it and would probably get the
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What country.. hmm..
I'd model it after Somalia :)
I like Japan, S.K., Taiwan that was. Those are pretty sound. Finland. Eastern europe, esp. czech.
Least like? N.K., zimbabwe, S.A., El. Sal.
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Checked out McYoungs page for updates (which is chock full of some damned good free advice, mind you) since I posted the link and all, and spotted something WELL worth a read.
I think Wulfie and Kirk would find it interesting despite knowing this stuff already, and those who don't should at least read through and get an understanding of the basic concepts.
http://www.nononsenseselfdefense.com/HighriskbehaviorRome.htm
He's actually pretty dead-on about us "Barbarians".
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
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Funny. Jan 20 was the beginning of an Error. Some thought it was corrected on Jan 21. The 20th nobody could repeat the Constitutional quote correctly, and then on the 21st no "oath" was taken with a Bible.
So the beginning of an Error without President is here.
Is he still a Kenyan resident?
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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
Funny. Jan 20 was the beginning of an Error. Some thought it was corrected on Jan 21. The 20th nobody could repeat the Constitutional quote correctly, and then on the 21st no "oath" was taken with a Bible.
So the beginning of an Error without President is here.
Is he still a Kenyan resident?
Show me the part of the Constitution where it says anything about taking the oath "with a bible". I can't find it. All I could find about the subject was this, quoted from the United States Constitution:
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Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:—"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
Huh... nothing in there about a bible at all.
Mike
"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."
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Frem,
That website was quite interesting. I've never heard these things put in such a way.
The Romans and the Barbarians. lol
Edited: But it seems (on this page) he is speaking mostly to the customs of L.A. gangs (most of whom are Hispanic). Which is a different subset, that DOES have rules....or at least ones in which someone with white skin can operate.
HOWEVER, as I keep reading, much of what he says otherwise is correct.
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The Bible tradition is a curiosity. The early American leaders were masons, and many at least nominal Christians, but the decision was made to ensure honesty and reliability to any oath because the populous was pretty hyper-christian, and they could be counted on to be more afraid of the wrath of God than that of the law. I don't know when it came in, someone else can fill in that detail
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