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SIGNYM

Wednesday, January 21, 2009 5:11 PM

O BTW Frem, I know YOU know what I mean. I'm just writing for others.

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CHRISISALL

Wednesday, January 21, 2009 5:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SignyM:
Or we COULD be like Sweden, which is 100X better. Which do we choose?

I have a friend that lives in Holland & she loves it.

The wood shoe Chrisisall

WULFENSTAR

Wednesday, January 21, 2009 5:24 PM

Heres how you fix a good slice of the crime pie...

1. Legalize weed. For Gods sake, do you know how much money this country could be making? Just treat it like booze...(you can't smoke and drive, you are still responsible for your actions even under the influence.)

2. Get rid of most gun-control laws. If you are a crazy bastard, no gun for you. Otherwise, arm up everybody. You are responsible for what you do with it, but you have the absolute right to defend yourself, your family, and your property at all times. Anywhere and at any time.

3. Along with getting rid of most gun-control, make citizens arrest a real thing. Gangs move in down the street? You can jump them, arrest them, and get their ass off the streets.

4. Take away any power of search and seizure from the police. Unless they have a search warrant. Get rid of so-called probable cause.

5. If you are an illegal...bye-bye. Gone. Period.

6. English is the official language. You must speak it. Period.

7. Corporations are responsible, explicitly, for their products. Know something in your product is defective and can kill someone, yet you let it go? Heads of the corporations face the death penalty. AND all of their money goes to the victims of their products.

8. Cops must wear a camera. This I'm a little iffy about, but they must video tape every arrest or encounter with a citizen.

9. If a cop, like the one at the BART murder, behave as they did...death penalty.

10. Take down and get rid of all monitoring cameras. Period.

Its not a lot, but its a damn good start.

SIGNYM

Wednesday, January 21, 2009 5:47 PM

With ya on about half of that, Wulf.

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DREAMTROVE

Wednesday, January 21, 2009 6:05 PM

I disagree with wulf's platform.
Vehemently disagree with 6, and the only one I kinda agree with is 7, except for the CEO part. Often it's not the CEO's fault that the product is defective.

The cop thing conflicts with the rest of your platform: You're missing that cops would edit their own camfeeds, cover up the lens, etc. if they wanted to break laws, meanwhile, just cops standing about would become a surveillance network all over again.

IMHO, some things that would solve a lot of the nations problems:

1. Privatize education, and any other social service.

2. public transportation, would solve numerous problems, and increase freedom of movement.

3. Get rid of the US military. The individual state's national guard is more powerful than any nation that threatens the US.

4. Ditch the federal reserve. Let the states mint currency.

5. Ditch the concept of federal laws, except those relating to conducting affairs between states, let states have their own laws, as long as those don't conflict with the bill of rights, etc.

6. Get rid of income tax, in any form, other than possibly corporate income tax, which is authorized.

Re: English, the ability to use other languages is a primary defense against surveillance and also, a primary right of americans to set up their own society. It's protection from MSM infiltration. If groups of mennonites want to speak 15th century german, that's their right and choice, and in doing so, they have protected their children from the MSM propaganda machine, because no one is going to be rebroadcasting the message in 15th century German.

SIGNYM

Wednesday, January 21, 2009 6:15 PM

Hey, before we get real theoretical and pie-in-the-sky-ish, can we go back a bit to... which country we'd like to be like? Are there ANY out there that look kinda like what you want?

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WULFENSTAR

Wednesday, January 21, 2009 6:38 PM

Sig,

I have no intention being like any other country.

We arn't LIKE any other country.

We never should be.

Other countries and people should want to be like US.

SIGNYM

Wednesday, January 21, 2009 6:43 PM

Umm, okay.

What about the other folks out there reading this?

Any countries or bits of countries you'd like to be like? Because if you want to BE like them you might want to DO like them. Or perhaps there are lessons we could draw from other nations' experiences. Seems like we have all kinds of wish-lists and theories, but not as much idea as how they would turn out in practice.

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RUE

Wednesday, January 21, 2009 6:57 PM

I vote Canada. It's great.

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WULFENSTAR

Wednesday, January 21, 2009 6:57 PM

Ok, I'd like to see us more like Germany is (Now).

All of its citizens are militarily trained.

Each citizen is explicitly responsible for their actions.

And before you start that Nazi crap, I took my wife over there about 3 years ago. We had NO problems. In fact, cus we were so jet-lagged, we saw most of Germany at night...late night at that.

Everyone kept to themselves, were responsible with their drinking and their behavior.

It was efficient and calm.

Hell, I felt more like I was returning to a Nazi state when I came home, then I did when I was in Germany.

Hows that for weird?

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