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ECGORDON

Saturday, January 17, 2009 7:02 AM

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Originally posted by piratenews:
Guess that means no season 5?

It's been nearly two years since it was announced that Season 4 would be the end of the series.

MAL4PREZ

Saturday, January 17, 2009 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Helen?

Didn't see that comin'!

But hold on a sec......how'd Starbuck get copied?

Color me confuzzled.

Yeah - seconded! On all that. What has Helen been up to all this time, and what in the world is up with Starbuck? Seems like the cylons have been playing with her head for some time - could this be more of that?

OK, here's something that bothers me.... So, was earth populated with lots of copies of the 12 cylon models? Or was there once lots more models, but only 12 survived? Either way, why haven't they engineering more skinjobs in the past 2000 years? It'd be a lot easier to infiltrate humanity with more models.

Anyway, I'm still really liking the show, even if it's bleak bleak and bleak. Poor Dee. That was shocking!

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AURAPTOR

Saturday, January 17, 2009 3:45 PM

Slept on it and took some time to collate this out some more.

The 13th "ancient" tribe that left the other 12 HUMAN tribes were in fact, Cylons ? What the frack ? I thought Cylons were a reletively recent creation of humanity. How'd the skin jobs ( newer, evolved models of cylons ) predate the origins of the first toasters ? And how'd they work their way BACK to the original 12 planets?

And how the frack did Starbuck's Viper blow up in a battle, end up on Earth,( which is dead, btw ) , and then she returns, in a brand new Viper, acting like she's just been gone for a few hours ? Clearly, she's a Cylon, but if there' no one on Earth, who copied her ?

Hell, if the "hidden 5" were on Earth that was, 2000 yrs ago, then who's to say we're not ALL cylons ?

Then again... it would make sense that, had this happened in the past, and a new race of humans ( skin jobs ) left the other 12 planets so both could live in peace, makes sense. But would skin jobs then build more toasters, subjegate them like the humans initially did, and the toasters rose up, rebelled against their more evolved brothers, nuked them, and repeated the same cycle ?

The toaster remains on Earth looked similar to the old ones, but we were told it was a different model. And this occurred 2000 yrs ago.

And then there was that one episode where there was a rogue band of cylons, outdated versions from before the truce. They played no role in the recent destruction of the 12 colonies nor are in league w/ the group chasing after the fleet.

And I know it's been brought up , but I've missed any conjecture/ association between there being 12 models of cylon skinjobs ( not counting Hera ) and the 12 colonies

Now I'm getting a headache. Grrr

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CYBERSNARK

Saturday, January 17, 2009 4:19 PM

Yeah, the "current" Cylons (from the 12 Colonies) are either descendents of the 13 Colony Cylons (or are just unrelated, based on common technology).

So, humanity started on Kobol. They created "G1" Cylons, who left to form the 13th Colony (or possibly the 13th Colony developed Cylons after leaving Kobol, then proceeded to interbreed until they were all hybrid enough to read as pure Cylons). At some later point (demonstrated by the Colonies' knowledge of the name "Earth"), the ancestors of the 12 Colonies left Kobol. They developed their own ("G2") Cylon tech, and ended up unaware of what happened on Earth.

Another theory is that the Five "evolved" Cylons on Earth were the ones who created Cylon tech in the Colonies (and it just took this long for the tech to develop back to Earth's levels).

The Five could hint at later (post-Kobol) contact between Earth and the Colonies, which would explain the encoded knowledge of Earth's location.

Exactly how the Five were reborn after 2000 years remains a mystery (I have some theories, though), as does Starbuck's resurrection (which isn't compatible with my theory about how the Five could've survived Earth --there seem to be two different phenomena at play here).

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SPACEGIRL32

Sunday, January 18, 2009 6:02 AM

***Waves***

I loved it! However, I wonder why it's on at 7pm PST and not the usual 9pm? Anyone know?

AURAPTOR

Sunday, January 18, 2009 6:51 AM

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Originally posted by Spacegirl32:
***Waves***

I loved it! However, I wonder why it's on at 7pm PST and not the usual 9pm? Anyone know?

*waves back*

Because West coasters are odd, living in that goofy time zone and all.

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ECGORDON

Sunday, January 18, 2009 2:48 PM

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Originally posted by Spacegirl32:
***Waves***

I loved it! However, I wonder why it's on at 7pm PST and not the usual 9pm? Anyone know?

Your cable or satellite provider must be using the east coast feed.

LWAVES

Monday, January 19, 2009 10:35 PM

I'm actually toying with the idea that Earth was there first, maybe even the one we know today. It advanced enough that a significant number of people then left them for Kobol. At some point later others left Kobol and became the 12 colonies that we know. During this time Earth was destroyed by their Cylons, who later all died themselves (or left) leaving the wasteland that we find now.
Somewhere over the centuries the story has been gradually changed so that it reads that the 13th tribe left them when in fact it was the 12 tribes that effectively left the 13th. Religious scripture has a way of being vague and wrong.

The Cylons are fond of saying "All of this has happened before, all of this will happen again".

I think this is what the quote refers to.

Just an idea though.

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WHIMSICALNBRAINPAN

Saturday, January 24, 2009 10:54 PM

A bit off topic but I am curious...

How do you think it will all end?

If the writers of BSG stay true to their ability to surprise the frak out of me nearly every time I suppose I shouldn't be able to guess it correctly.

Honestly though, if they wanted to do the series justice (and make a comment about human nature to boot), I think it should end with the fleet destroying themselves.

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MAL4PREZ

Sunday, January 25, 2009 2:28 AM

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Originally posted by Whimsicalnbrainpan:
Honestly though, if they wanted to do the series justice (and make a comment about human nature to boot), I think it should end with the fleet destroying themselves.

They're awful close to that at the moment...

I don't know, somehow I have faith that the ending will be some kind of homecoming. Not pure happy-happy-joy-joy, but at least a moment where these poor people can take a deep breath and relax for a damned minute. And I really hope it happens in a way that pulls together at least some of the strange plot odds and ends that have been left dangling over the seasons. I really do hope the writers have been planning for it, and don't pull some kind of Stephen King Dark Tower series ending. *shudder*

As for predicting: I haven't a clue. Not even a bit. And I'm usually very big on predicting. It's part of what I love about this show - there are so many possibilities that I can see many different outcomes, and I bet none of my sad little guesses are anywhere close. I was way off about the fifth!

BTW, where the hell will they go with that? And doesn't it add to the creepiness of Tigh seeing the face of his wife on #6?

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