Indy Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

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UPDATED: Monday, January 26, 2009 02:46
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CHRISISALL

Friday, January 16, 2009 8:31 PM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Bottom line is we loved Indy 4 inspite of the points mentioned. No biggy.

Well put.

The still-hiding Chrisisall

DREAMTROVE

Saturday, January 17, 2009 1:13 AM

Chris,

You're missing the point. The core of structure of sci-fi, it's not what if katie couric was a lesbian and did it with sarah palin on national tv instead of trying to corner her, that's not science fiction.

Each genre has its core questions and concepts. Fantasy is not inferior to Sci-Fi, it just has different base concepts. Indy four was enjoyable to watch, but impossible for me to be swept up in the illusion of. And please, at least give credit to the aforementioned suck for being a degenerating decline potc 1>2>3, and ditto with Sw.

the fact is that we were all jonesing for some jones, and so we enjoyed the movie. Doesn't mean it wasn't absurd.

Also, I found this annoying: aliens. I want god in my indy. I thought the temple had this problem because it abandoned god. I want it in there because that is the nature of the fantasy.

Like, for instance, the initiative, buffy, season four, would be fine in "reanimator the series," but in buffy, it was just sucking the life out of the show. This world is about vampires.

Indy is about ancient magic trapped in real archaeology. Aliens are sci-fi, and bad movie aliens are bad plan nine from outer space bad.

100 things they could have done here. I would have gone with the eye of horus. Great story, still missing object, of great assumed magical properties. Another one, the fifth mayan codex. Who knows what's in it, does it still exist? Again, the ancient inca texts, relics, anything. So, going to india was a stretch, and took us out of familiar territory for the western audience, but crystal skull just invented stuff out of whole cloth.

I enjoyed watching it, because it was non-stop, so it wasn't boring like matrix 2 which made me not see 3, but I enjoyed it in a random eye candy way. I mean, there's no good reason not to throw a t-rex in the middle ;)

AURAPTOR

Saturday, January 17, 2009 4:07 AM

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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
I tried to watch this tonight. Got maybe 3/4 of the way in and just had to take it out.

Such a shame!

THANK YOU! Gawd. I'm glad someone did that thing justice by taking it out of the DVD player!

:applause:

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CHRISISALL

Saturday, January 17, 2009 5:12 AM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:

Also, I found this annoying: aliens. I want god in my indy. I thought the temple had this problem because it abandoned god. I want it in there because that is the nature of the fantasy.

*sigh*
Another dude that compartmentalizes his 'Verse.

Like God touches not the inter-dimensional alien.
Like God co-exists not with Shiva & the Hebrew God.

Get over your limitations in inclusion, DT.

The ONE Chrisisall

DREAMTROVE

Sunday, January 18, 2009 7:52 PM

Chris

I don't believe in God, but that's the nature of it, at least something having to do with archaeology and neolithic magic uncovered there, which does not include aliens.

It's like if Jesus appeared in a star wars movie and started performing miracles. Oh wait, I think we call that Matrix 3. Get my drift?

THESOMNAMBULIST

Sunday, January 18, 2009 8:17 PM

Originally posted by dreamtrove:

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I want god in my indy. I thought the temple had this problem because it abandoned god. I want it in there because that is the nature of the fantasy.

But that's what Raiders of the Lost ark is. It's about the Ark hence the nature of the story must take that turn. However that is not the nature of 'Indiana Jones the character'. He's a guy who gets into a heaping set of adventure. There are no limitations to his adventures. For some reason when people think of Aliens they think it's a modern preoccupation. Not so. Ancient history is littered with references of beings from the heavens. The Indy formula was still adhered to in the Crystal Skull:

Ancient myths/lores (aliens) re-examined in the modern times (in this case the 50's) via an adventurer called Indianna Jones who goes some way into solving it's mysteries.

Raiders.
Ancient myth/lore (The Ark) re-examined in modern times (the 30's) via an adventurer called Indianna Jones who goes some way into solving it's mysteries.

Same principle.

Now I fully respect the fact that you may not have enjoyed Crystal Skull as much but I personally don't think they infringed upon any 'unwriten law' about what the ESEENCE of Indiana Jones is or is not.

In many way's anything around the time of the charcaters timescale is fair game to venture into. During the 50's there was massive interest in UFO's stands to reason they chose this narrative.

CHRISISALL

Sunday, January 18, 2009 9:26 PM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:

I don't believe in God

Heathen.

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, but that's the nature of it, at least something having to do with archaeology and neolithic magic uncovered there, which does not include aliens.

Prove to me that aliens have never visited and/or affected the cultural and/or physical landscape of times past.

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It's like if Jesus appeared in a star wars movie and started performing miracles. Oh wait, I think we call that Matrix 3. Get my drift?

Non sequitur; your facts are un-cordinated.

The laughing Chrisisall

CHRISISALL

Sunday, January 18, 2009 9:28 PM

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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
He's a guy who gets into a heaping set of adventure. There are no limitations to his adventures. For some reason when people think of Aliens they think it's a modern preoccupation. Not so. Anicent history is littered with references of beings from the heavens. The Indy formula was still adhered to in the Crystal Skull:

Totally.

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In many way's anything around the time of the charcaters timescale is fair game to venture into. During the 50's there was massive interest in UFO's stands to reason they chose this narrative.

THANK YOU.

The backed-up Chrisisall

DREAMTROVE

Monday, January 19, 2009 3:00 AM

I'm sorry, but I might be old, but the 1950s isn't ancient history :)

CHRISISALL

Monday, January 19, 2009 2:58 PM

Neither are the 30's.

The reincarnated Chrisisall

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