Indy Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull

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UPDATED: Monday, January 26, 2009 02:46
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CHRISISALL

Tuesday, January 13, 2009 8:25 PM

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Originally posted by cioccolata:
First of all...I really hate when people tell me not to go see a movie because they hated it. Good for you that you hated it, it's called free will and you have it as well as I. If someone doesn't like it, tell the reason they hated it and move on. I, like any other person on the face of this planet can and will form our own opinion of the movie.

Hear hear!

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Second...I liked this movie. It had all the elements of a movie I like, thrills..spill..adventure...comedy...romance.

Me too, I'm sorry not to hate on it just 'cause Lucas had something to do with it, I really am. I hate being different than others.

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I wasn't thrilled with the direction they went with the ending, but I enjoyed the movie and am happy to add it to my collection.

I liked the ending as much as the rest of the flick. In fact, I love the film. I like every Indy film for entirely different reasons...

The fridge-nuked Chrisisall

STORYMARK

Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:24 PM

It was okay. I didn't hate it, but I found it extremely dissapointing, for a number of reasons, most of which come down to the script.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

REDLAVA

Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:13 AM

If anybody has seen the South Park episode where George Lucas and Steven Spielberg rape Indy in the you-know-where, then that pretty much sums up my take on the Crystal Skull.

AURAPTOR

Wednesday, January 14, 2009 4:34 AM

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I liked the ending as much as the rest of the flick. In fact, I love the film. I like every Indy film for entirely different reasons...

Chrissy, you're one of, if not THE most incorrigible wanna be fan boy suck up - ever.

Back in the fridge for you!

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" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

ECGORDON

Wednesday, January 14, 2009 4:55 AM

I'll side with Chrisisall on this one. Not that I loved the movie, and I doubt I'll buy it, but it is what it is. An Indy movie that brings the thrills and chills, along with all the hokeyness you expect from something patterned after the adventure serials from Lucas' youth. To judge it on any other level is to shun the entire genre. I'd have to say that for anyone who thinks Crystal Skull was worse than Temple of Doom, then they've lost any credibilty as a reviewer for me.

STORYMARK

Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:37 PM

I find "it's just an adventure movie" the most intellectually lazy defense of a film, regardless of which one, there is.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

DREAMTROVE

Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:45 PM

ECGORDON

I challenge you. Watch the movies back to back, and then say that again. Temple of Doom was bad. But it wasn't this bad. I mean there was a level of creepy to it, the feel was creepy. It wasn't like 1 or 3.

But CHRIS

What are you smoking? I find hollywood usually entertaining as spectacle, and this was full of that, even in its overly obvious cgi way. But it did take hokey to new depths. It was SW Ep3 bad, it was probably just SW Ep2 bad.

I enjoy movies generally. But I'm sure I was laughing at this one more than with it. The whole magnetic scene in the beginning was where the thing fell apart. I mean, the first minute went okay. Nothing that happened in this movie happened for any reason that would be called a story element. It all happened just to set up the next scene.

Wouldn't it be better if the whole thing had just been a comedy? I mean, it was already such a spoof of its former self, that they could have dispensed with any pretense at anything else. I liked little touches like hitting the ark on the way out, which I guess magically is immune to the magical magnetism, as are notable other items. But if I were to try to find fault with this story, it would fill up the hard drive. I mean, literally, minute by minute. So sure, there were some fun over the top actions scenes of outright silliness, and a couple good throw away lines from Ford.

but ECGORDON

What are you smoking? I mean, I'm not a big fan of 2 and Lucas has really lost any credibility. But two had a story, where elements led one event to another. It was a silly story, but it was there.

RAP,

Don't beat up on Chris, it's not nice. He's like, well, our mascot.

LUCAS

WTF Man? What are you smoking? and how long have you been smoking it? You know what this movie really needs? More ham, and more cheese, and oh yeah

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Aliens. Nothing cool. really dumb fucking aliens. Ones that not only look dumb, but are internally inconsistent. Then we can have a dumb ending that we'll copy from X-Files, because everyone hated it in X-Files.

I mean, I want this movie to suck. I hate my suck-up fanboys. I mean, jesus, I could just run 2 hours of blank screen and these geeks would pour in seven bucks a piece.

Yeah, are you kidding me? They just watched three star wars movied that sucked. And I tried to make them suck, each one, worse than the last, and they kept on coming. I mean, will these geeks with their beer bellies and hair and that same stained T-Shirt that they've been wearing for three days that says C:DOS\Run, I mean, these guy's'll never give up.

But no, that's to would be too cheap to just make some spinoff game can get them to buy collectible miniature tabletop warhammer style toys until they had to explain to mom what all that stuff in the closet was, like how Magic cards weren't really a nickname for cannabis.

No, I wanted them to suffer.

LUCAS

Let's face it. You suck. You always sucked. The story's were simplistic, and the characters cardboard, and wouldn't be likeable but there's not enough there to actually dislike. What you have is Industrial Light and Magic.

Here's a better idea. instead of hiring actors and stuff, just like take some money, and buy a whole bunch of drugs, and give them to Dykstra and his boys, and let them get really stone, and come up with something totally random, and then just have them throw it on the screen, with just no explanation at all. Just Whoa, man, Kennebunkport just got eaten by a giant starfish.

And then the that might actually be cool. Yeah, I know, I shoulda gone with lobster, because it would be more fitting. The funnier thing is that spell checker follows my where ever I type, and is obviously british english, and it hates that being in lower case, but I know this because it's always wanting -or to turn into -our, and -ense into -ence, but it really couldn't handle Kennebunkport. It still can't. It wants to change it to Drunkenness.

STORYMARK

Wednesday, January 14, 2009 6:51 PM

The reason Temple of Doom is better than KOTCS - There was an actual sense of danger on TOD, but never in KOTCS did I feel anyone was ever in any actual danger. Also, Indy actually makes active choices in TOD, that effect the outcome of the story. In KOTCS, he's pretty much along for the ride, is led by the supporting characters and villains, and has no actual influence over the outcome of the story, post jeep chase. He could have literally gone home at that point, and the story would have ended the same.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

THESOMNAMBULIST

Wednesday, January 14, 2009 7:04 PM

Oh I loved this film! I thought it was heaps of fun. Watched it twice in the cine- Oh hang on. Wrong crowd. Bugger!

TWO

Thursday, January 15, 2009 2:52 AM

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Originally posted by ecgordon:
... Not that I loved the movie, and I doubt I'll buy it, but it is what it is. An Indy movie that brings the thrills and chills, along with all the hokeyness you expect from something patterned after the adventure serials from Lucas' youth. To judge it on any other level is to shun the entire genre.

Judge the movie based on the two scripts written for Indy 4. There was a good script that went to all the same plot points as the bad script, which added a noxious ingredient to the adventure - Indy's bastard child named Mutt. George Lucas went with the “Mutt” script. The movie that the fanbase deserved was written, but left unproduced. Lucas blatantly ripped entire sequences from a much better film into the one he ended up with.

Here are 50 points of excellence in the “good” script, per professional writers:
http://mysterymanonfilm.blogspot.com/2008/06/50-strengths-of-darabonts
-draft.html

50 mistakes that the “Mutt” script made in the opinion of professionals. Funny!:
http://mysterymanonfilm.blogspot.com/2008/05/50-flaws-of-indy-iv.html
George Lucas should read it and learn so he doesn't repeat the same mistakes in the future.

Read the good script here.:
http://www.wikileaks.org/wiki/Purported_Indiana_Jones_4_original_scree
nplay_draft
This is the movie that would have been head, shoulders, and crotch above the actual movie that was made. This would have been the best Indy movie of the four! It could have happened if only George Lucas hadn't insisted on a role for Shia LaBeouf, who played Mutt. And it could have been filmed for the budget of $185,000,000 (estimated) spent on the Indy 4.

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