Save Dollhouse from Fox - its doesnt suck

POSTED BY: JaynezTown
UPDATED: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 17:38
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JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, January 13, 2009 3:02 PM

I never got any of these preemptive fan groups

If the show is good, that's great for me I'm sure many people will check it out and enjoy it, myself included. If Joss gets things right I'll be writing great reviews online telling everyone to check this series out.

However from what I've been reading it sounds like the show had problems and Fox was slicing bits off the show which it didn't agree with.

One thing that gets me about this particular fan group is that Joss will magically woo the fans with his new creation regardless of the creations quality. If the show is bad people should be ripping Joss a new one instead of brown nosing. There no doubt with be a sheepish people follow an overlord. As a fan of Joss I am also embarrassed by lemming like devotion over at some of those unconditional fan worship shrines. Sometimes I agree the man does create great magic like Firefly but sometimes I rate him as fail. The verses of Joss are becoming more Whedon-esque ass the years pass. The zombies might insist this is the best show since sliced bread but if I don't like it I'll stop watching

ZEEK

Tuesday, January 13, 2009 4:16 PM

The thing is the people around these parts are very likely to be the fans who have never been disappointed by Joss. That doesn't mean that they can't be disappointed by some of his work in the future. Serenity lost Joss a lot of fans. Many fans violently hated Wash's death. So, it's not like he can do no wrong.

However, to the majority of people here his work has been stellar. If you had an author that wrote 10 novels and you loved each one wouldn't you be dying to get your hands on the 11th novel? If some publishing company started mucking around with the 11th novel wouldn't you be concerned? The only difference there is that with Joss we already experienced what can happen when his work is mucked with. Most people don't want to lose a masterpiece again. Once bitten twice shy.

DREAMTROVE

Tuesday, January 13, 2009 6:02 PM

Zeek,

Well said.

I'm not a Joss fanatic, he's misfired a few times, he can even do so spectacularly, but on balance, he's very good. I'm a fan. Joss is likely to create something that will have relatively few misfires. I'm not bothered by his obsession to kill what he loves, which he does incessantly on Buffy, but he loses me when he's not committed. Like on season seven Buffy, when he just walked away, or Angel. Sure, there were moments of greatness, but suck can creep in.

The other pitfall for Joss is a pitfall for everyone: Everyone needs an editor, and a team is better than any single person. A lot of times you'll have people get what I now call Lucas syndrome, where a writer thinks that they have a monopoly on good ideas, and won't listen to anyone else, even if that person is Spielberg, who himself has fallen into this trap.

My issue with Dr. Horrible, which I enjoyed, is that with no budget, Joss doesn't have his full team, and he needs his team. I'm glad that Fox is pouring money into Dollhouse, I think that it will help make it not suck. Money isn't a cure all, but lack of money can certainly reduce your production staff, and things can fall apart.

PIRATENEWS

Tuesday, January 13, 2009 10:44 PM

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http://television.gearlive.com/tvenvy/article/q107-joss-whedon-rearran
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After showing Episode #1 to FOX execs - and even friend David Lynch - it was agreed that series could start off on a better note. In fact, some apparently found the segment confusing. To remedy the situation, Whedon is crafting a prequel that will air just before the pilot episode. He believes this will help introduce the characters better.

I see what the problem is. Fox needs to hire more intelligent executives.

It appears the pilot was not "cancelled", just a "prequel" was added? One more free episode?

DREAMTROVE

Wednesday, January 14, 2009 3:55 PM

Oh god. not more of the same shuffle stupidity that they did to firefly. Okay, someone at Fox hates Joss and wants him to fail

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, January 17, 2009 6:42 AM

promo

JAYNEZTOWN

Saturday, January 31, 2009 9:23 PM

'Dollhouse' Whedon's newest, strangest work

http://blogs.news-journalonline.com/247/2009/01/dollhouse-whedons-newe
st-stran.html

JAYNEZTOWN

Friday, February 6, 2009 8:02 AM

Joss Whedon updates us on Dollhouse

http://www.tv.com/story/12364.html

The launch of Dollhouse is only eight days away, and creator Joss Whedon discusses its origin, its time slot, and its problems.

Joss Whedon's Dollhouse is just over a week away from making its debut, and there is still some uncertainty of how it will turn out. The sci-fi show's production has been a roller-coaster ride already, with high expectations and horror stories sharing the same track.

In a conference call with reporters this morning, Whedon addressed Dollhouse's ups and downs, shared updates on the show's current status, and gushed over his lead Eliza Dushku.

Dollhouse stars Dushku as Echo, one of several "Actives" in a super-secret organization. The Actives can be implanted with memories, personalities, and skills, and serviced out to clients for almost anything--espionage, expertise, and even sex. The best part of the business? When the implant is wiped free, the Active has no memory of what just happened…or so people think.

The sci-fi show started with big buzz before running into some obstacles in the form of rewrites and reshoots, leading many to be concerned for its health. The genesis of Dollhouse was most similar to that of Angel, Whedon said, in that the initial direction of the show didn't quite match the final output.

"Most of the changes [to Dollhouse] were about how we brought [the audience] in," Whedon explained. Fox execs were very excited about the project, but wanted more of the show's structure to be apparent immediately--they didn't want an origin episode--hence the re-working of the pilot. The goal was to let the audience know that Echo would be in a different place each week and to highlight the fact that it would be standalone. "It seemed like a no-brainer to give [Fox] something they can get behind more… we're out to make people uncomfortable, but maybe not our bosses."

The result is a show that Whedon says has hit its stride and overall isn't different than his original vision. He assured us that the show ends up going exactly where he wanted it to go originally, and that the last few episodes he shot has the entire crew particularly excited.

But are Whedon's words enough to appease his devoted fans, who have their finger on the button to launch a "Save Dollhouse" campaign before it even airs? Probably not.

"Usually words of calm in these situations, they lead to panic," jokes Whedon. "My concern isn't whether the show gets saved, it's whether the fans love it… At the end of the day my biggest concern is that I give them something worth panicking over."

And if what he says about the show's delivery is true, it looks like there will be plenty to panic about. Joss--never one to shy away from innovation--says one of the more intriguing elements of Dollhouse is the way he will be playing with perspective. Instead of just showing episodes just from Echo's point of view, they’ll come from all over: clients, other Actives, and--this is the one that got me excited--one episode (the sixth) from the perspective of a normal man on the street.

Ratings will end it

I think Fox will keep Terminator SCC and cancel dollhouse

PARTICIPANT

Saturday, February 7, 2009 10:19 PM

Joss return to Fox : SEE SHARK JUMPING

JAYNEZTOWN

Tuesday, February 10, 2009 5:38 PM

http://watchingdollhouse.com/dollhouse-video-jump-off/

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