Israel Vs. Palestine: Evil Scorecard

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UPDATED: Tuesday, July 1, 2025 19:27
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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
What action do you think we might have seen without the rocket attacks ?

That I think is the real problem, what other course is open... The UN ? The ICC

unless your Iraq or Serbia most nations thumb their nose at these organizations and with good reason... They do not act fairly or justly.

As for Obama... he sold his soul on this issue already

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/rosnerBlog.jhtml?itemNo=832667&cont
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unless he was lying, and its hard to hope for that considering all the other unpopular things it is likely he will be facing with the economy.

At best maybe isolationism could be hoped for. When the US is broke enough, the lack of military aid being sent may stabilize the situation, but I doubt it.

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What other action? ANY other than more rockets that have little hope other than to annoy.

The world, the UN - may feel saturated with the needs of the oppressed, and as much as the members may take an oath to be World Ambassadors, they are still people like you and me.

Hard to be objective all the time and groups with their public agenda... I'm not surprised when larger nations side with Israel (if not their methods) in this case.

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With the present UN structure, even if a resolution is brought against Israel, it is either ignored.. or vetoed by the US

So in my mind they are a useless organization... get rid of the veto and maybe... but until then

The rockets are the only thing bringing the problem out into the open, no rockets you just have a massive prison camp on starvation rations being screwed over by Israel at their whim



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"The rockets are the only thing bringing the problem out into the open, no rockets you just have a massive prison camp on starvation rations being screwed over by Israel at their whim"

Absolutely.

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Get rid of the rockets and there is no problem to bring out, except that Gaza is being run by ruthless thuglords, but certainly no one who thinks Hamas is a legitimate government would care about that.

So let me know when you can figure out a way of doing that, because Hamas isn't going to just hand them to you.

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Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

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Hamas is the legitimate government of Gaza, at least according to the Israel-hating Nazi website Wikipedia.

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Get rid of the rockets and there is no problem to bring out, except that Gaza is being run by ruthless thuglords, but certainly no one who thinks Hamas is a legitimate government would care about that.

So let me know when you can figure out a way of doing that, because Hamas isn't going to just hand them to you.

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Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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And I suppose if they were ruthless thuglords in the favor of the United States this would make all the difference in your mind...


lets see the ANC and Mandella had US Support and were terrorists

the Contras in Nicaragua

the Shah of Iran

etc, etc, etc

just because you dont like them doesn't mean they are not the legitimate government in Gaza... they were elected and when Fatah tried to illegally dissolve that government they were the victors of the civil war that followed.

While they violated the peace treaty, Israel NEVER complied with the provisions in the first place



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Originally posted by Hero:

Here is my peace plan. Everybody stops shooting. Hamas assembles at a designated location in the desert say...next Thursday. They can bring their guns. At noon they start shooting...does not matter what direction. At five minutes after noon Isreal gets to start shooting. If Isreal kills just Hamas, fine, we declare Isreal the winner and peace restored. If Isreal bombs Hamas AND the Hamas-free cities, then we declare Isreal the loser and peace restored. Then we can talk about big empty spaces in Lebanon...

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Interesting... I think you are on to something. A violent peace plan should certainly appeal to both sides.

How is this then, give both sides a week to come to some kind of agreement, or if not nuke them all Jew and Muslim alike.

Ukraine can supply the weapons, they need the cash



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