Israel Vs. Palestine: Evil Scorecard

POSTED BY: pizmobeach
UPDATED: Tuesday, July 1, 2025 19:27
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I hope the thread title doesn't sound like I'm trivializing this conflict - not at all, just trying to start a reasonably factual time line for the recent aggressions and to log actions by either side as they happen.

My recent stance was, "they're both doing bad things," and while that still holds, it does appear from the most recent reports that Israel is taking the lead in doing the most heinous acts, even "War Crimes." At least imho.

Staring with this article in the NYTimes that tries to describe the events that lead to the end of the 6 month Egypt brokered cease fire from June of last year:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/15/world/middleeast/15gaza.html?_r=1

There's a lot of finger pointing and outside pressures in the article (Hamas versus Fatah), neither side is innocent, there are a number of players and there are a number of ways to justify recent actions from each side.

In the last 2 days however, Israel has been guilty of major acts of violence against civilians and against aid workers from the UN and the Red Cross. There are just too many for them to waive away with their "we don't target civilians" response/excuse.

UN and Red Cross convoys that have been given clearance by Israeli forces to bring in aid, have repeatedly come under fire and have taken casualties. Not only did they go through all the proper channels to get clearance but they use those vehicles that have the big RED CROSSES on their sides. One time maybe, several times is just not believable.

Listening to the lead UN rep for humanitarian aid describe the actions on NPR yesterday was chilling. Perhaps there are mitigating circumstances? Harder to believe.

Plus:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/10/world/middleeast/10zeitoun.html?ref=
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Civilians being gathered into one location and then that building being shelled shortly thereafter. This may be the worst one yet. It's hard to imagine a more purely evil act than this, especially for a group with it's history.

I have no agenda, just looking for facts, please add them as you see them. (apologies if posted elsewhere already).

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[sarcasm] NO NO NO! You've got it all wrong!!! Israelis are the GOOD GUYS!!!!! [/sarcasm]



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Let's party like its 1929.

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Israel gave Gaza self-rule in 1994, unilaterally withdrawing the last of its citizens and soldiers from Gaza in 2005. Hamas, voted into power in 2006, fought and defeated their political and military rival, Fatah, to seize de facto control of Gaza in 2007. In the past eight years, Hamas has fired more than 10,000 rockets and mortars into Israel, 7,000 of them after Israel's 2005 withdrawal. With improved technology, reportedly assisted by Iran, Hamas' rockets can now fly 24 miles before impact and explosion, thereby threatening, injuring and killing more and more Israelis living in southern Israel. That's what this is all about now, Israel finally said enough.

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Get all the info you can but consider the source

http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/war_on_gaza/2009/01/200915854482046
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Lets party like its 1939

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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
Get all the info you can but consider the source

http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/war_on_gaza/2009/01/200915854482046
90.html

Lets party like its 1939

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Article about US media "bias." Some of the comments are the best part:

"U.S residents should start reading news from all sources if they want to know something close to reality. The media is so politically influenced that it is impossible for it to report in fair manner in US."

True. Sometimes I think people who don't live here don't realize that the US is like 50 countries and it's hard just keeping up on our own current events, let alone foreign conflicts that have been ongoing for thousands of years. We'd LIKE to, but there's only so much time in the day.

And this is also what we see:

"It is true that the news coverage in the US is biased in favor of the Jews but it is also true that the Palestinians do little to get sympathy in the US. When they elect Hamas they ask for war. When they march it is not for peace but waiving AK's and pledging destruction. Palestine needs a Gandi."

Thank God/Allah for the Internet - you can now follow Al Jazedera and events in Gaza by Twitter:

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2008/12/20081229165319379
71.html

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Someone already keeps a scorecard, and I am surprised no one else has so far mentioned it.
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

I mean, if you wanna nitpick the details, it's pretty damn clear.

-F

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Quote:

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Originally posted by pizmobeach:

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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
When they elect Hamas they ask for war. When they march it is not for peace but waiving AK's and pledging destruction. Palestine needs a Gandi."

Thank God/Allah for the Internet - you can now follow Al Jazedera and events in Gaza by Twitter:

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2008/12/20081229165319379
71.html

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Would a fair comparison be if the Republicans had of won your recent election, the US voted to be attacked ?


I don't think Gandi would have survived this conflict. The mossad would of killed him or more likely ignored him and simply taken whatever they wanted anyway.

Remember this ethic cleansing started in 1948, the only time the Palestinians get any notice is when they fight back, and also it was the Jewish terrorists who managed to take over Palestine in 1948 by using similar tactics...




Lets party like its 1939

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