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CNN: Israel tries to assassinate Cynthia McKinney

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Friday, January 9, 2009 5:33 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Finn, you're an idiot.


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FINN
Hamas is a noble band of freedom fighters.
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I'd like to nominate this for the dumbest thing posted, after Finn's personal hatefest against me blamed me for the holocaust.



DT, it gets even worse - It was people exactly like Finn (and I'll bet he was one of them) who, along with Reagan, ridiculously romanticized the Mujahideen in the 80's, and called them things like "freedom fighters". And then they turned around and did the same thing with the Contras in Central America. So everything he has accused you of loving about Hamas, is the same things that he loved about other terrorist groups, so long as they served our interests, more or less, at the time. It's not that he's agasint terrorism or death squads - it's just that he's against it if it's not wrapped in an American flag first.

Did Kwicho just arbitrarily assign an opinion to me, and then condemn me for it? Ha ha

I think he did? That’s desperation, folks!



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Friday, January 9, 2009 5:57 AM

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Did Kwicho just arbitrarily assign an opinion to me, and then condemn me for it? Ha ha

I think he did? That’s desperation, folks!



So you are saying that when you arbitrarily assigned an opinion to Rue (Hamas is warm and fuzzy), you were acting out of desperation?

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Originally posted by Finn Mac Cumhal:

Of course, rue. Hamas is warm and fuzzy. They could never be responsible for any action that would put Jews in danger.







Mike

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Friday, January 9, 2009 6:03 AM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Did Kwicho just arbitrarily assign an opinion to me, and then condemn me for it? Ha ha

I think he did? That’s desperation, folks!



So you are saying that when you arbitrarily assigned an opinion to Rue (Hamas is warm and fuzzy), you were acting out of desperation?

No. Rue actually was arguing that Hamas was blameless.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Friday, January 9, 2009 8:03 AM

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Originally posted by Riverlove:
JSF is obviously ribbing & hyperbolizing here. Relax, no one wants to see any dead Americans. If anyone did, then they would be despicable. We've had enough of that the last 8 years.



Thanks for your support. Yes, we do not wish to see more Americans dead, nor others from peace-seeking groups. No, we did not celebrate 9/11.

But consider an analogy. When some miscreant shkes a soda vending machine until it falls over and crushes him/her to death, do you think, "oh gosh, too bad he didn't also kill and innocent child bystander at the same time?" Often, I conjure in Jayne style, coulda seen that coming.
So when the Americans are going to be killed, the point was in this new scenario, the Liberals are campaigning for the terrorists to be targeting liberals in cities to be killed. If some are to end up dead by their own actions and beliefs, better them than those who would rather defend against these attacks.

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Friday, January 9, 2009 7:00 PM

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
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Originally posted by Riverlove:
JSF is obviously ribbing & hyperbolizing here. Relax, no one wants to see any dead Americans. If anyone did, then they would be despicable. We've had enough of that the last 8 years.



Thanks for your support. Yes, we do not wish to see more Americans dead, nor others from peace-seeking groups. No, we did not celebrate 9/11.

But consider an analogy. When some miscreant shkes a soda vending machine until it falls over and crushes him/her to death, do you think, "oh gosh, too bad he didn't also kill and innocent child bystander at the same time?" Often, I conjure in Jayne style, coulda seen that coming.
So when the Americans are going to be killed, the point was in this new scenario, the Liberals are campaigning for the terrorists to be targeting liberals in cities to be killed. If some are to end up dead by their own actions and beliefs, better them than those who would rather defend against these attacks.



Can we try that again, but in English this time?

It sounds like you're saying that liberals are campaigning for people to be killed in the cities, so they deserve to die because a kid shook a soda machine, or something like that.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Friday, January 9, 2009 7:30 PM

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:

But consider an analogy. When some miscreant shkes a soda vending machine until it falls over and crushes him/her to death, do you think, "oh gosh, too bad he didn't also kill and innocent child bystander at the same time?" Often, I conjure in Jayne style, coulda seen that coming.



I'm not sure that the analogy fully applies. I don't think terrorists are quite as passive in killing the miscreants (I assume liberals?) as a vending machine is, and I'm not sure who the child in your scenario would represent.

I mean to say, I don't think that liberal politics are the sole reason that attacks on cities have happened.

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So when the Americans are going to be killed, the point was in this new scenario, the Liberals are campaigning for the terrorists to be targeting liberals in cities to be killed. If some are to end up dead by their own actions and beliefs, better them than those who would rather defend against these attacks.



I didn't think that liberals are actively campaigning to mount a bulls eye for terrorist activity onto cities and away from.. away from what? What would be the alternative target? The guardians of freedom you speak of?

Who do you define as the guardians of freedom? If they routinely give their lives, I suspect... soldiers?

I'm trying to understand whether you goal is to shift back the loss of life to those who volunteer as defenders by making liberals cease all liberal and terrorist-encouraging activity, thus hypothetically removing all threat of terrorist attacks on cities in the first place.

If you do not define guardians of freedom to be solely soldiers but conservatives in general, why bother defending at all if the ones to be hit are only liberals, anyway? Why do you even care, if you are going to weigh the worth of life according to politics? What do they matter to you, then? Less liberals and even less cities! Since, apparently, cities are only for liberals, anyway.

It's just a little too cold an attitude for me to respect.

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Friday, January 9, 2009 8:09 PM

And, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the mayor of New York on 9/11 a Republican? Wasn't the president on 9/11 a Republican? Wasn't the governor of Massachusetts (where all of the hijacked planes originated from) a Republican?

Seems like a pretty fucked-up bunch of "defenders of freedom" you guys hired there...

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Friday, January 9, 2009 8:14 PM

Also, if it's only the cities that are targets, because cities are liberal, then why haven't all the conservatives moved out of the cities? I mean, they have to know the liberals are begging to be made targets, right? Are they planning on standing in the middle of Times Square and defending the city by the power of their upraised hand?

Just curious.



Mike

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Friday, January 9, 2009 11:49 PM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
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Republicans for McKinney :)



Ms 'Much ado about a hair do ' McKinney was once my Congresswoman. I voted her vileness out. Then they redrew the district lines, and she got booted out AGAIN, but sadly, I wasn't able to join in on the fun.

Just don't get me started on that worthless piece of go se. Both her and her knife wielding pappy could sink to the bottom of the Med, as far as I care.

IRL, I doubt there's even 1 Republican for McKinney. Certainly none here in GA.






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Saturday, January 10, 2009 5:50 AM

You're from GA, Huh. Didn't occur to me.

Actually, Rap, yes, I was serious about voting for McKinney. It was part not getting into arguments about race, so there was another black person to vote for (I actually like Obama, but I knew if I voted for him I would get Clinton) Maybe i'll be pleasantly surprised.

If I lived in a swing state, I mighta voted differently. I like McKinney. She has guts, and some wild conspiracy theories. Of course, I also knew she didn't have a snowflakes chance in winning.

I was going to write in Ron Paul but he pointed out that people should write him in because write ins doen't get counted in the vote tally that gets printed after election day, and he wanted there to be a strong protest vote. 20% of the population could have written in Ron Paul and it still wouldn't make the news.

Personally, I'm also quite fond of McCain and Palin, but this is NY, they didn't stand a chance. I'm one of the few people here who thinks that Palin '12 is a good idea. JEB '12 is not my favorite idea. I've had enough dynastic politics. We're about to get either Senator Kennedy or Senator Clinton, possibly Senator Cuomo, but any way you slice it, an unelected elitist.

If I were Karl I'd reorganize the GOP around Ron Paul type principles, steal heavily from the British Conservative Party, just as Reagan did, and then have Sarah Palin as a front. I'd run that in 2012, at the depth of a depression, while the US was instituting a draft of men and women to stem its losing war with Pakistan and trying to deal with the concept of Quadrillion dollar debt, and when a loaf of bread was about $1600 bucks. I'd start that plan right now by making a micro economy out of Alaska and make things there hold relatively together for contrast, I think that, plus throw in underhanded support for some hippie socialist with more broad-based appeal than Ralph Nader, Throw in a decent expererienced true conseeervative as VP and I think it would be a walk.

Really, what I expect, is that the GOP will tie itself to sinking stones like Ohlmert, creationism, credit economy and the war, and put up JEB/Condi and throw it to Obama for re-election on a silver platter. But that's because I'm not Karl, Karl is Karl.

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