Iron man- Best Superhero Movie Ever?

POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Monday, January 26, 2009 18:06
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FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, January 2, 2009 4:32 PM

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
Minority report: I found myself really put off by Iron Man's cavalier attitude toward killing. That shot when he killed 10 terr'sts with 10 li'l rockets coming out of his shoulders was, I suppose, badass--but damn! Can you say "unequal warfare?" They didn't have a chance. It wasn't a fight, it was an execution, y'see what I mean? I mean it was a freakin' embodiment of what Western Power has done in that part of the world for centuries. Left a really bad taste in my mouth. If you have that kind of power over your enemy, would it kill ya to find a less lethal method of TOTAL DOMINATION? Yeesh.

And why is it that superheroes so often end up fighting a wannabe version of themselves for the climax? It's hack work. Hack metaphysics. The lame.

Me, I liked The Shadow. I mean, Jonathan Winters, c'mon! Batman Returns was highly underrated. And X-men was written by Joss, fer cryin' out-loud! Oh and Batman Begins was an instant classic. After the smoke clears, Dark Knight was plain incoherent. Remove Ledger from the equation and it just falls apart.

They look pretty pissed to me, Chris. I'd start editing or start running, if I were you.

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

Considering that the 10 terrorists were holding human shields in front of them, were beating a father in front of his children and had the intention of shooting said father in front of his children-as well as the fact that they had certainly killed untold innocents -considering all that then more power to Iron Man. It was not an execution - they were armed and had been shooting at him.

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"We don't fear the reaper"

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STORYMARK

Friday, January 2, 2009 4:40 PM

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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
It was not an execution - they were armed and had been shooting at him.

Given that their shots were 100% ineffective and pointless, that's like saying it's okay to blow someone up for throwing a pea at you.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, January 2, 2009 4:42 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
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Originally posted by FutureMrsFIllion:
It was not an execution - they were armed and had been shooting at him.

Given that their shots were 100% ineffective and pointless, that's like saying it's okay to blow someone up for throwing a pea at you.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

No its not. The weapons were ineffective against him, not the innocents they were killing. Are we supposed to stand by and watch as others are killed just because our weapons are bigger or better?

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STORYMARK

Friday, January 2, 2009 4:45 PM

Didn't say that. You are reading what you like into my statement. I just said they were ineffective against him, and they were. The fact that they were dangerous to others doesn't change the point that he could have used non-lethal means just as effectively.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, January 2, 2009 6:12 PM

Non-lethal methods would not have solved the problem. They would have lived to loot, pillage and murder another day.

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"We don't fear the reaper"

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CLJOHNSTON108

Tuesday, January 6, 2009 8:12 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
IMO, the flick is the closest thing to perfection since Superman The Movie. Even Batman Begins takes a second place to this recent comic book adaption.
And face my Repulsor rays if you disagree!!!

The stark Chrisisall

Most definitely!
Only thing wrong with it is that the DVD lacks a commentary from Robert Downey, Jr. and/or Jon Favreau.

I could barely sit through The Dark Knight.

CHRISISALL

Sunday, January 18, 2009 3:05 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
The fact that they were dangerous to others doesn't change the point that he could have used non-lethal means just as effectively.

I'm not so clear on what means those might have been in that circumstance...?

The confounded Chrisisall

OUT2THEBLACK

Saturday, January 24, 2009 11:32 PM

Y.E.S.

Far and away , Best Superhero flick of them all !

Thought so first time I saw it at the skinny-ma .

Snoozefest The Dark Knight gets most of the love , go figure...

CHRISISALL

Sunday, January 25, 2009 1:43 AM

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Originally posted by out2theblack:

Snoozefest The Dark Knight gets most of the love , go figure...

Yup.

The sleepy Chrisisall

LWAVES

Sunday, January 25, 2009 9:12 PM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by out2theblack:

Snoozefest The Dark Knight gets most of the love , go figure...

Yup.

The sleepy Chrisisall

This is why I never ever consider Batman a superhero. He is a crime fighter or vigilante.
On that grounds Iron Man is the best superhero movie of recent times (will anything beat Superman The Movie??).

Although I think The Dark Knight is a fantastic film (even with it's flaws) I do have to agree it is getting too much attention that, as a result of Ledgers death, it wouldn't have normally got.

For me a superhero has to have been physically modified in some way (space rays, chemicals, radiation, technology or whatever it may be).
Tony Stark, whilst just a man, has his chestplate that stops the shrapnel getting to his heart but this also allows him to powere his suit. Other superheroes have their own thing.
Batman has nothing like that. Beneath everything he is just a man. Plain and simple.

I think it's unfair to compare them.
But when is anything fair these days....

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